Hard Starting after Sitting

Loopyone

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I have a 1990 120 with VRO. Engine runs like a champ. Strong, smooth, wonderful engine. <br /><br />Except after it's been sitting for as little as a week or two. Then it's VERY difficult to start (dense clouds of smoke) without advancing throttle until engine has warmed up or run through whatever is left in the carb bowls. That takes about 10 minutes. Then engine will idle OK, exhaust doesn't smoke and I'm ready to go fishing. <br /><br />It acts like gas/oil has separated in carb bowls, and once fresh gas has reached carbs, engine settles down and idles fine and doesn't smoke, but getting it started is always a chore. <br /><br />I have single lever control--no warm up lever, so I have to take the motor cover off and hold throttle open with my foot while turning key and intermittently pushing in on key switch to activate choke. <br /><br />I rebuilt carbs, put new kits in, everything's clean, and fuel's fresh. 125 psi compression in all 4 cylinders. Only problem is starting first time after engine's been sitting for as little as a week. <br /><br />One observation: There is a plastic filter in the fuel line beneath the fuel pump on the left side of the engine. After engine's been sitting a short while, the plastic develops a greenish tint, indicating that oil has migrated into the gas line. Wonder if oil from the VRO pump is draining into the fuel line, and what I'm seeing is an oil-rich mixture until engine has burned through what's in the carb bowls and fuel line. When the engine settles down and idles the fuel filter is clear, not green. <br /><br />I haven't seen this problem discussed. Any thoughts?
 

Cricket Too

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

That engine has a primer instead of a choke. Make sure that the primer solenoid is working when you push the key in, you'll hear it click. The single lever controls do have a fast idle lever, you have to pull the actual handle out towards you, down where it pivots or sometimes they have a small button on top to disengage it, this will release it from being in gear and you can use it to operate the throttle only. Are you pumping the fuel primer bulb up nice and hard before trying to start? Try this procedure:<br /><br />)Leave in neutral, do not use fast idle lever<br />)Pump up bulb nice and hard<br />)Turn key on, do not crank just turn the key on<br />)Push key in and hold it in and count to 8<br />)Then turn key all the way to start<br /><br />This should start it pretty quickly, the 8 second hold on the key primes the engine with fuel before starting, but you have to pump the bulb up good. If it still will not start relatively easy, try using the fast idle lever a little while cranking.
 

Loopyone

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

I checked very carefully and no, the control does not have a fast idle lever, button, or handle that extends. All it has is the choke solenoid, that clicks audibly. This is a 1990 engine/OMC control.
 

farginicehole

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

My '89 150 was behaving just like you described, and I discovered I was not getting spark consistently at all six cylinders when I was cranking it. This, combined with possible other gas/oil problems like you are theorizing was apparently making it a real bear to start when it had sat for a week or more. Once I got it started though, and the smoke cleared, I could shut it off and re-start it very easily all day long. Once I ended up replacing the timer base and powerpack to cure my ignition problems, it seems to be very eager to start up after sitting for a week or so (haven't tried going any longer yet, since it's fishing season!). Have you verified you have good, strong spark on all four(?) of your cylinders when you're experiencing this problem?
 

Loopyone

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

Yes, thanks for the reply. Spark is right on during cranking. When it starts, it acts like it's not getting enough fuel, but way too much smoke. However once it gets a little warm and idles, the smoke clears and all is well for rest of the day. If I had a throttle lever independent ofthe shifter, I'd be OK. It's just with these controls it's a real pain to get the thing to start.
 

Loopyone

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

Cricket Too was right. The control handle slides horizontally to the left (toward operator) to disengage the transmission. That will make starting much easier. I think that will solve my problem.<br /><br />Thanks!
 

gpuzio

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Re: Hard Starting after Sitting

I have a 96 130 HP with the same problem. More than 1 week and it is very tough to start. Smokes like crazy after starting. I follow the above starting procedure to a T and it is the correct way to start these engines. Have you solved this problem yet? I am still looking for the solution
 
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