Lots of hunters here...

gaugeguy

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Do you, or are you required to wear hunter orange?<br />I am not required to. I never wear it during bow season, just a orange cap during black powder, and a hat and vest during rifle season. <br /><br />We only had one hunting accident here in NH this year. Unfortunately it was during the youth weekend. A 12 year old peppered another hunter with buckshot, after his dad told him to shoot. Luckily the man that got shot lived and both the kid and his father will never have a hunting licsence in this state again. The guy who got shot was bow hunting and did not have orange on (our youth weekend is during our bow season). I do wear lots of orange during youth weekend.
 

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Re: Lots of hunters here...

Not req. here.<br /><br />I like to blend-in myself. No orange.<br /><br />H.
 

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don't hunt anymore, but if'n i did I would deff.<br />wear a bunch of orange! deer are colorblind.<br />turkey is a diff. story.
 

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Don't wear orange here,and it is not required<br />in Alberta. Some other provinces do require <br />either white or blaze orange.<br />MY Deer are not color blind, thats an urban<br />legend, even fish are not color blind.<br />I dont think there are any animals that are color<br />blind, except maybe ants and primitive bugs.
 

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Blaze orange is a requirment here during any big game rifle or muzzelloader season. It is like our national color come hunting season, you even see people who don't hunt wear it in support of our "non-sport". ;)
 

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During gun deer seasons, 50% of upper body must be orange. If a hat is worn, it must be orange.<br />WI puts 650,000 hunters in the woods during the gun deer season.<br /><br />Not required during bow season or small game or waterfowl season.
 

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Required here during our shotgun and muzzleloader seasons. Our bow season runs through gun season, so even us bowhunters must wear the blaze orange during the gun season. Not required during the regular bow season.<br /><br />I at least wear an orange hat during the gun season while I am moving. If I am in a treestand, I don't wear any. <br /><br />I kind of look at this like a seatbelt law, if I want to take a chance by not wearing orange, then it should be my option, not a law (IMO).
 

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gotta dis-agree with you NOSLEEP, most mammals<br />are at least "mostly" colorblind.<br /><br />"Humans have three sets of visual pigments that allow us to see color, said Dr. Timney. Most mammals only have two sets, so while it’s likely that they do perceive some colors, their eyes probably don’t process as much color information as ours do.<br /><br />"Cats probably have some color vision," explained Dr. Miller. "They have the ability to detect lights of different colors." But the number of color-perceiving cells cats possess in their retinas is so low, it’s debatable whether or not they’re actually using color vision, Dr. Miller said.<br /><br />In dogs, studies have shown that they do use color vision, Dr. Miller said. But they are red/green colorblind, which means that they can’t distinguish between those two colors. Red and green probably appear gray to them, Dr. Miller said.<br /><br />Horses definitely see colors, said Dr. Timney, but also have trouble distinguishing certain ones. Their troubles come mostly with greens and yellows, he explained. <br /><br />(article written for Vetcentric magazine)
 

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"For many years, biologists believed that deer were color blind. Early work on the structure of the white tail's retina did not indicate any color sensing, or cone, cells. But recently, researchers using electron microscopes have found cone cells in the eyes of white tails. The cells, however, are few and far between compared to those found in other species with good color perception. Further research by Michigan State University and the Michigan Department of Natural Resources has demonstrated that deer can detect the color red and its various shades."
 

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Same as Carp, <br /><br />
Required here during our shotgun and muzzleloader seasons. Our bow season runs through gun season, so even us bowhunters must wear the blaze orange during the gun season. Not required during the regular bow season.<br /><br />I at least wear an orange hat during the gun season while I am moving.
It's the same down here. I'm a guest on my fathers lease and they (member board) dont require orange during muzzle loading season. If Im wearing camo I believe it is a must. <br /><br />The only time I think full camo is needed is for combat, bow, wild turkey, and duck hunting. Alot of times I wear jeans and a big straw hat because the deer and hog seem more relaxed (they think I'm a cowboy ;) mending fences or something). I think they've come to understand the diff. in this fla. ranch environment. Another consideration is if you spot game while driving, never turn off your engine, it will spook the large game everytime.
 

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neumanns <br /> :) "non-sport"<br />Question #1:<br />I have a serious question here. I think Deer do see in color. Before the hunter orange requirement I could stand next to a tree stump and watch deer walk by all day long.. now they look directly at me.. <br />Another question: #2<br />In our state we have antler restrictions.. IE: spike or 2 point.. etc, but from what Ive read antlers are a result of what a deer eats... in 2003 a hunter actually killed a doe with a rack! <br />What gives here??? <br />Question #3:<br />I was having coffee with a friend of mine a couple years ago who is a "Game Warden" and we were talking about hunting as kids.. when we hunted deer while they were in rut (sp) now in our state the deer season has been pushed back to early Oct! <br />Mabe I'm just being paranoid
 

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500 square inches of continous unbroken orange is required by law here in Mississippi. I wear it since I don't want to become a statistic.
 

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For centuries the great minds of the world thought<br />the world was flat. <br />God or mother nature and evolution, have <br />provided for the animals of the world, To say<br />that he, she left the animals out of the<br />evolutionary proses and left them color blind<br />is IMHO ridiculous. They may have a slightly<br />different visual. But color blind is not one<br />of them.<br />Our deer season ends here, when the rut begins.
 

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The start of the rut here, has a great deal to<br />do with the weather. Obviously it begins around<br />the same time of year. <br />Cold and ground cover have a great effect on the<br />rut. If it is warm in November the rut will <br />usually be delayed until Colder weather arrives.
 

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Link, with my limited knowledge and experience, I will try to answer your questions, (but remember, these will just be my opinions, and you know what that is worth ;) ).<br /><br />#1 - Since I am not a scientist, I can only speculate. Deer, as in most wild animals I have witnessed, are very proficient at picking out movement. When I first started hunting, I used to dress head to toe in blaze orange, and deer would walk right by me. There have been many times that I have been dressed head to toe in camo, and they have spotted me immediately too. So, from my experience, I would say their color vision is very limited.<br />.....and, imagine that you came home, and someone placed a new lazyboy chair in your living room, most likely your gonna notice it. Now imagine a deer, he uses this land daily, he knows every tree, and rock, and bush, ect, ect. All of a sudden you show up, and to him, you look out of place. You are essentially in his bedroom.<br />.....and remember that a deer can smell 10 times better than a human. There are air currents that we cannot see that will blow our scent directly to the deer.<br />so, in summary, I believe a combination of some or all of the above is why the deer are capable of picking the hunter out.<br /><br />#2 - I have also heard of "freak" does that will grow antlers. This is very rare. Why this occurs, I am not for sure.<br />I believe antler restrictions are a good thing. Why shoot a little spike buck when you could just shoot a doe. If you just want meat, shoot a doe, let the little bucks grow up so they can reach their potential. I will say also that when I first started hunting, a spike was a trophy to me. As a grew older, I realized that if I let the little spike walk, then he might be a good 6 or 8 pointer the next year. What makes me mad is the hunter who year after year after year shoots the small buck. Eventually you should raise your standards. Again, if I just want meat, then I will shoot a doe. We do not have antler restrictions here. :mad: <br /><br />Antler size is basically based on three things, genetics, location, and available forage.<br /><br />#3 - I can only speak for Indiana, but our gun season starts during the peak of the rut, (mid November here).<br /><br />Remember, these are just my opinions, so they are worth approximately what you paid for them. :D <br /><br />Have a nice day :) .
 

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We get a couple does here every year that have a set of antlers. Our Fish and Game dept. has really muffed up our deer seasons big time. There were 0 doe days this year with the rifle, 1 with muzzleloader and 30 with the bow (our bow season is 90 days long). So someone that goes out just to put meat on the table is forced to shoot the first antlered deer he sees, usually a small spike. <br /><br />We have had a couple of harsh winters in a row and they want to rebuild the herd. So what we have now is a bunch of does that you can't shoot, a bunch of yearling bucks that everyone shoots, and the few really mature bucks that rarely get taken and are really challenging to hunt. Our deer kill this year will be just shy of 10,000.<br /><br />I would love to hunt those big corn fed bruisers out in the mid west.
 

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I know what your talkin about there GG. Our Department of Natural Resources is so screwed up, I sometimes wonder if PETA isn't running it. :mad: <br /><br />A legal deer in Indiana has to have at least one antler that is 3" long. When gun season rolls around, you should see all the spikes and forkhorns that hit the ground. Its really a shame. <br /><br />We do have some nice bucks here though. Lots of cropland for 'em to feed on.
 

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My thoughts on blaze orange, racks, and the rut.<br /><br />I think a deers perception has more to do with the solid block of light pattern rather than the typical lights and shades that occur in there habitat. This combined with there uncanny ability to read our eyes leads them to choose there course of action. If they think you have not seen them or are going to go past them they many times will allow you to get very close.Never look at a deer that is looking your way, If you seem unconscerned with his presence it will likley be unconcerned with your's.<br /><br />Rack's are a product of food availability but only to the limits of age and genetics. The spikes and forks would only be slightly larger spikes and forks with optimum forage because they are limited by there age. These are one and two year old deer. Does with racks are due to hormones, same reason some ladys are susceptable to hair lips.<br /><br />Our rifle season coincide's with the rut here. Our rut is more dependant on the moon than the weather here in the northern latitudes (more predictable). In warmer climates it can be influinced more by the weather. I think hunting the rut has advantages and disadvantages. Although you know what the bucks are doing they can also become very eratic in where they do it. If you spot a buck working a doe if she is not quite receptive he will stick with her until she's ready and all you need to know is where she will be. But on the other hand if he's not on a hot doe he does not stay home. He wanders unpridictably and sometimes in unlickly spots for a quite a large range. The rut also does make them very active which increases your odds but the toufgh part is trying to guess where he will appear. Here many times you will see a rut buck somewhere that you never see him the rest of the year.IMO when Bucks are most predictable is in the pre-rut stage, not in the rut. <br /><br />These are just some of my observations, nothing scientific here just my opinions.
 

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It's required here in Masssachusetts and in Maine where I also hunt during the deer season with a gun.<br /><br />Bow hunting we do not have to wear hunter orange<br />And that is the way I like it
 

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During rifle or Muzzle season, hunters who are holding a tag must have 300 sq inches of hunter orange on their upper body... bow hunters do not, but are not allowed to hunt during the gun seasons. I wear an orange hat while Pheasant hunting, but it's not the law, just common sense. ;) <br /><br />I primarily hunt on my own land, so I only have to be wary of people in my own party :D
 
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