mercury VS yamaha

[huntdirt]

I now own a yamaha 50 hp and love it. A used boat that I am looking at has a 60 hp merc. 4 stroke. Does
anyone have any thoughts on the differance between the two???

 

[Texasmark]

Re: mercury VS yamaha

Both companies have relatively good reputations, supply worldwide, and have been in business for quite awhile, all attesting to the adage, "Quality Survives the Test of Time".

Mark

 

[Philster]

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Yes.

You live in The South, and I believe local law (or sheer cultural pressure) requires you to run a Mercury.

To run a Yammy down South, you have to go all the way to Florida, but I don't think Florida is actually part of The South, so that explains it.

Get rid of the Yammy while you still have your life!

 

[Texasmark]

Re: mercury VS yamaha

Yes.

You live in The South, and I believe local law (or sheer cultural pressure) requires you to run a Mercury.

To run a Yammy down South, you have to go all the way to Florida, but I don't think Florida is actually part of The South, so that explains it.

Get rid of the Yammy while you still have your life!

Ranger boats build some of the finest Bass Boats of any mfgr, located in Flippin, Ark. and have been since late '60's. Check out what most of the big mils are coming off the *** line in their combo units (boat-motor-trailer). The engines aren't black. I'm currently running a 90 Merc on my boat. If I could find a really nice 115 Yammie, I'd buy it and swap out the Merc.....but I have been running black since the mid '80's.

Just my opinion.
Mark

 

[Scott Danforth]

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I know about 60 people that work for Mercury, and many more that used to work for Mercury. I know no-one in Japan. 'nuff said. keep it black

 

[Texasmark]

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I know about 60 people that work for Mercury, and many more that used to work for Mercury. I know no-one in Japan. 'nuff said. keep it black

Pointless comment. Just because your realm of experience, exposure, relationships, or whatever is in one area, has absolutely nothing to do with the quality or lack thereof or anything else with the parties not party to your knowledge. I'm not pushing or knocking one or the other. Not being argumentative, just saying what I said.

Mark

 

[Philster]

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Texasmark: My comments were tongue-in-cheek. Though that was obvious.

Generally, there is a huge bias towards Merc power in parts of The South. Is it a totality? Nope. Your Ranger example rings true.

Several dealers I know couldn't move a Yammy down there for nuttin'. They couldn't move Evinrude Etecs either. Toss some Mercs on them and they sell like hotcakes.

There are many great outboards from the big boys now, and it almost comes down to what kind of value/deal, support or warranty you can get.

 

[steely51]

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It's not what you were asking for but I'd go with an OMC product or a honda.....

 

[Philster]

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More directly, I have a Merc 40 HP 4-stroke and there is nothing to report on it other than it's been a perfect little motor for over five years.

Only notes are not about manufacturer, but number of cycles: A two stroke 50 will probably feel more zippy than a four stroke 60.

 

[Texasmark]

Re: mercury VS yamaha

Texasmark: My comments were tongue-in-cheek. Though that was obvious.

Generally, there is a huge bias towards Merc power in parts of The South. Is it a totality? Nope. Your Ranger example rings true.

Several dealers I know couldn't move a Yammy down there for nuttin'. They couldn't move Evinrude Etecs either. Toss some Mercs on them and they sell like hotcakes.

There are many great outboards from the big boys now, and it almost comes down to what kind of value/deal, support or warranty you can get.

Thanks.

I hear you on the Merc bias. I ran OMC from teen age years as that is pretty much what you ran around the Houston, TX. area. Then I started looking at Merc and some differences that I thought really important: smooth leading edge of lower unit that would glide over logs and not wind up with a blob of weeds like the OMC lower units of the day, splined slip hub rather than a drive pin which was a shear pin in fact and always broke at the worst of times...windward side of rip rap with a pretty good prevailing wind.

I did like the OMC loopers however and by then they had cleaned up the lower unit and got rid of the pins so those obstacles disappeared. I had a couple of mid '70's of those badges. My first Merc was an 85 hp on a bass boat with direct charging and PTT. Has been the brand ever since.

I was fooling around recently thinking that I wanted to get away from my 3 cyl looper and get a 4 cyl in the mid range and I didn't like the Merc 2+2 setup. Didn't look to OMC since the buy out and thought about Yamaha.

It's really just a pipe dream. For what my current rig does for me, being paid for, all rigged out and very usable and fuel efficient as is, vs the hassle and expense of changing engines and controls and all.....too much trouble when you get down to it.

Mark

 

[sutor623]

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Ford Vs. Chevy battle.

 

[Don S]

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Having worked at both a Mercury and Yamaha dealerships, a few things I know about them are:
1. Both are fine motors and last a long time with proper care.
2. Yamaha repair parts cost a lot more than Merc, even when it's the same motor and same part.
3. In general, there are more dealers/repair shops for Merc, than for Yamaha if you don't do your own repairs.
4. Plenty of information available for DIY help on Mercury, Yamaha, not so much. Just look at the forums here at iboats.
5. OEM Service manuals for Yamaha are the worst manuals I have ever seen in my life. Merc, BRP are great, Yamaha sux.
6. Lots of Aftermarket parts and sites for Merc outboard parts, Yamaha not so much.

 

[daveiam]

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I have ordered a new aluminum fishing boat (RogueJet "Coastal"), which will arrive in August 2013.

My current boat (Lund) runs a 175 Verado, which I didn't know much about until I started doing some research. I was not much of a Mercury fan until I ran that engine. I was so pleasantly surprised! That engine is quiet and powerful. And even though hole shot isn't a critical factor for the type of fishing I do, my Verado is pretty quick. Only one problem with the fuel system being corroded with ethanol. They covered it through my extended warranty, but it wasn't without an argument. New models do not have the problem, and mine is now protected against ethanol corrosion.

That Verado is supercharged (which is like a turbocharger) and has an intercooler to deal with the increased piston temperature that supercharging/turbocharging causes.

I have a lot of faith in engineers. In the case of the Verado, the head engineer came from Porsche, which is a world leader in engine design. I don't, however, have much faith in the dealers and salespeople. Not that they are bad people, but so many of them just don't know their product. Since most boaters (fishing) are so technical about their engines, and demand that information, salespeople need to get their act together. Know the product AND how it compares to the competition. This area is so lacking. I have come to realize that I can not rely on statements made by dealerships. And it doesn't matter which brand they sell, they are pretty much the same.

I wish I could understand why the Verado comes with an electric hydraulic power steering. Those power steering units draw lots of amperage. And unless, you set-up a deep-cycle battery power source, you will not have power steering when you are running the kicker. The Lund dealer in Dixon, CA were complete idiots on the issue--and arrogant to boot. A local non-Lund dealership fixed the problem. They are the best.

I also have a Mercury 9.9 Pro-Kicker. Not as impressed with that motor, as it is a little hard to dial into a 1.4 to 1.6 trolling speed. However, Yamaha makes a fuel additive (Ring Free Plus), which was recommended by my mechanic (they are both a Mercury and Yamaha dealer). Once this additive was in the fuel, the kicker instantly ran smoother. It prevents build-up that all kickers can have problems with. I would buy a Mercury Pro-Kicker again, if it was part of a package deal.

I am going with Yamaha on my new boat. Probably the 225hp engine. It came down to a long history of reliability. And they make the best kicker on the market at this time. I did a ton of research, and Yamaha has won out.

So, in the end, I think either will do the job to my satisfaction. Just like the Yamaha a little better.

 

[GA_Boater]

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This is a year old + thread.

 

[daveiam]

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So. It still is a much talked about topic, and comes up on a google search.

 

[GA_Boater]

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So. It still is a much talked about topic, and comes up on a google search.

It's been a year - can't be talked about very much, can it? While your Googling, Google the iboat forum rules.

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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So. It still is a much talked about topic, and comes up on a google search.

The original poster has 4 posts to his name, and hasn't been back to this thread since last year. THIS discussion has since been over.

If you want to remain in the good graces of the Moderators, take the time to read the rules in the link below.
http://forums.iboats.com/forum-rules-guidelines/forum-rules-397820.html

 

[daveiam]

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Thanks for the info. I see there is a measure of sarcasm attached to the above notes. So, if this post is so dated and therefore unimportant, why is it not removed. Why archive a post that has nothing important to add to the boating community?

I have now read the rules. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess I should have started a new thread on the very same subject!

But lastly, what is your official title in the forum? Are you the moderator?

 

[GA_Boater]

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We are users just like you. We could have alerted a Mod, but thought it best to just let it work out.

As to why it isn't closed or removed- That's not the nature of this forum. Information, even old information is valuable. Just like you found it with Google, it was information, although old information because Google keeps dredging up the past. At risk of offending you, which is not my intent, your post didn't give the original poster any new information because he hasn't returned to even read the responses to his questions. It happens a lot and the thread just dies a natural death. When you posted, you ignored the red banner at the bottom of the page which warned that the thread was over 90 days old and only the thread starter should add a post to revive the thread. That ticks the Mods and members off because the sheer number of active posts can make finding active threads harder when old ones keep rising to the top.

And yes, you should have started a new thread. Thank you for your understanding.

 

[sutor623]

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Not a moderator, just reputable members here. One of the main things about this forum that differentiates it from others is that the mods would rather you start your own thread rather then flame you and say "use the search button" like other forums on the net. These boys on here have saved me thousands of dollars and headache after headache. You got an issue then start your own thread. You just can't beat it ya know?