New to forum, buying a used boat.

RSVRMAN

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

I will have to use those search tools after this weekend. Im going shopping again and found a 1994 glastron 175. Owner said floor is solid. Im curious if they still used wood then or are fiberglass floor. Any big concerns to look for other than the list I already mentioned?
 

ezmobee

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

I suppose it could have a fiberglass deck but it's definitely got wood stringers and transom.
 

RSVRMAN

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

I suppose it could have a fiberglass deck but it's definitely got wood stringers and transom.

Thanks! Heading out this weekend to look at it. The more I look at boats the better I get at seeing whats good and whats not. By the pictures and service record this one could take the cake. Time will tell.

Already starting to look for 3.0's. I think with a 17' boat I will be just fine for wake boarding instead of the 4.3. I figure if I cant pull myself up then I will just hit the gym and lose a few more pounds. (or get a better prop.) Each boat I've seen with the 4.3 is either too expensive or junk.
 

ezmobee

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

Already starting to look for 3.0's. I think with a 17' boat I will be just fine for wake boarding instead of the 4.3. Each boat I've seen with the 4.3 is either too expensive or junk.

My uncle had a '95 SeaRay 175 with the 3.0 from new. That boat was used darn near exclusively for watersports and was fine. He surprised me last year by trading it in on a minty '98 185 that came available....again with the 3.0. I would have figured he's up to a V6. So apparently the four-banger suits him just fine. I will say they get unbelievable fuel economy.
 

RSVRMAN

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My uncle had a '95 SeaRay 175 with the 3.0 from new. That boat was used darn near exclusively for watersports and was fine. He surprised me last year by trading it in on a minty '98 185 that came available....again with the 3.0. I would have figured he's up to a V6. So apparently the four-banger suits him just fine. I will say they get unbelievable fuel economy.

I figure for my first boat it should be just fine. If the other half falls in love with the boat we can always go bigger and maybe I will get to use the bigger part of the garage. It will be the first volvo outdrive I've looked at. I'm indifferent on volvo or merc, but I noticed this outdrive has a cap on the end of the prop. What is the purpose for having that on there? Is it needed?

Forgot to mention its a volvo sp outdrive.
 

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Where the engine size is concerned, I suppose it boils down to relativity. My current suv for example that I drive every day had a 400hp engine option while I only have the 303 HP version. My 303hp version feels very capable and tows my 4000lb boat/trailer good...until I jump into my friends with the 400hp engine. It is like a night and day difference. I'm best just staying out of his same truck and all is well. The 4.3 has almost 50% more HP than the 3.0 and a lot more torque. A 3.0 is fine...until you feel the same boat with half as much more HP. If you are like me, WOT just is never fast enough especially when the first season honeymoon period is over. I grew up with an 85 HP outboard engine on our family boat. We could pull 3 boarders or skiers or whatever with a full boat. It seemed like a lot of power and seemed capable...and it was until I was to go down the comparison road.
My current boat with a 4.3 seems capable, but guess what happens when I jump into a friends identical boat who shelled out for the 270hp option. I'd kill to have gotten that engine now.
 

CC245

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

Thanks! Heading out this weekend to look at it. The more I look at boats the better I get at seeing whats good and whats not. By the pictures and service record this one could take the cake. Time will tell.

Already starting to look for 3.0's. I think with a 17' boat I will be just fine for wake boarding instead of the 4.3. I figure if I cant pull myself up then I will just hit the gym and lose a few more pounds. (or get a better prop.) Each boat I've seen with the 4.3 is either too expensive or junk.

The only problem with the 3.0 is that your RSV will have more hp than your boat!!:D:eek:
 

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Just got back 12 hour drive to see a boat. Asked owner several questions about this boat. Motor, transom, hull, floor. Even asked to go inside of the boat and make sure there was no rot because it was such a far drive not to waste my time. Well pulled ski locker and got out flashlight. All the wood was black and wasn't rotted through yet, but was very obvious there was significant rot. Flipped front cushions all were rotted. One was repaired with stapling plexiglass to the bottom so it would stay together. There was green antifreeze everywhere in the engine compartment. The back of the transom had several cracks that I pointed out as well. Wires were everywhere under the dash. When I lifted the engine vinyl cover the screws came apart and the thing was just laying on top. There was no hinge to keep it in place. Boat was significantly faded and had a large dent in the hull that was "omitted." The pictures in this add are at least from 3-5 years ago.

It just really upsets me when you call someone ask the questions. Point out that you will find rot if there is any and to please not waste my time. $150+ fuel and 12 hours of driving including through this April blizzard. Damn did that **** me off. I think I will be keeping my search closer now because after going to Iowa and given the same run around I'd rather be patient and find a buy closer to home.

Here is the boat in question.

1994 Glastron boat
 

RotaryRacer

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

That's too bad. Can't say I haven't done the same thing. You did the right thing walking away.

Keep searching, the right boat will show up.
 

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

That's too bad. You did the right thing walking away.

Keep searching, the right boat will show up.

x2

It would have been easy to buy it anyway at a lower price, considering the drive, but you did the right thing and, that's called experience, you become pretty efficient at boats inspection.
 

ezmobee

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

The pictures in this ad are at least from 3-5 years ago.

That's just awful. It's one thing to place a misleading ad on Craigslist. Maybe you're even too lazy to take more recent pics, ok I get it. But to let a guy drive that far to come see it when you KNOW the ad wasn't a true representation? That's practically criminal. :mad-new:
 

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

Sorry to hear the seller just didn't get it, and apparently still doesn't.

I have seen people place an "informational" ad rebutting the sellers ad, if you're so inclined.
 

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

Wow, those pictures are probably from when the guy first bought it, they don't look like anything like what you described.
 

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

That's just awful. It's one thing to place a misleading ad on Craigslist. Maybe you're even too lazy to take more recent pics, ok I get it. But to let a guy drive that far to come see it when you KNOW the ad wasn't a true representation? That's practically criminal. :mad-new:

I agree completely. I've been shopping the the same area as the OP for years now. I've bought 2 boats for myself and found another for an out of town friend. Most recently, I was shopping for a friend and looked at 5 or 6 boats before we found one. we were also shopping in the fall when there seemed like less buyers to compete with.

We were shopping in the 5000+/- range like you. Having some previous knowledge of what to look for and were to look helped and really came from practice more than anything. What I found was people, generally speaking, have no idea what their boat is worth or what may or may not be wrong with it. Every boat I looked at had issues of some kind, so don't be disappointed by this. Pretty much every one had some rot and or some interior issues due to age or just from being used. Rear bench's were often bad from people climbing over the seats for water sports or perhaps the result of an ambitious mouse looking for a nest. One day looking at one of the nicer boats we found, I was checking around the motor, I dropped my flashlight into the bilge which had a bit of water in it. When I pulled my hand out with the wet flashlight to find a bunch of motor oil. Seller said the guy who changed the oil said there may be some down there. FAIL. How could I accept that excuse? How could he allow me to find that in this "mint condition" boat????

I have more similar stories but you know how they end. We finally decided on a boat that, despite needing a few repairs, had the least amount of rot of the bunch I had looked at, and with the best condition interior. My buddy had to put some money into it initially but has had good luck ever since.

So, my advice it this. don't be discouraged by what you find when you look at a boat that has been misrepresented by the seller. Be encourage that you have been able to pass on the boat because of your reseach and knowedge gained here and in your own experience.

I think this time of year is the worst time for boat shopping, and the sellers are priced high, often ready to hold out for the best offer until the middle of summer when they will start to want to unload the boat before fall. You can't water test the boat now either which puts you at a disadvantage. All this said, get the cash in hand and go out and look. You must be ready to pounce on the good deal because it won't be there long. Don't put much faith in the sellers. They don't seem to know what the heck they've got to begin with.

Good luck!!
 

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

I once drove down to Austin, MN to look at a Bronco. Yup, more Craigslist lies. Plywood back window sums it up for the most part.
 

RSVRMAN

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

That's too bad. Can't say I haven't done the same thing. You did the right thing walking away.

Keep searching, the right boat will show up.

Thanks! Just gotta keep pushing forward. Sooner or later it will plane out.
 

RSVRMAN

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

x2

It would have been easy to buy it anyway at a lower price, considering the drive, but you did the right thing and, that's called experience, you become pretty efficient at boats inspection.

Maybe someday I will do a project boat, but I think its better learn as I go instead of starting with a full rebuild. For the price he wanted I could spend 2k more and have the bigger engine with no problems on a few other boats. I'd rather spend the 2k.
 

RSVRMAN

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Re: New to forum, buying a used boat.

That's just awful. It's one thing to place a misleading ad on Craigslist. Maybe you're even too lazy to take more recent pics, ok I get it. But to let a guy drive that far to come see it when you KNOW the ad wasn't a true representation? That's practically criminal. :mad-new:
Yup. I even had him on the phone and asked if there was any rot. Asked if he would check walk around boat and if there was ANY to let me know. Of course he denied any rot. I let him have an earful. I didnt even need to get out my wack a mole mallet to see for problems. The one plus of the entire trip is after drinking lots of coffee from leaving at 4:00AM I had to go unload at quite a few places in WI. That makes me feel a bit better due to Packer Viking relationship. :p
 
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