Hard Starts When Warm

jims38305

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I have a 1985 150 Black Max. Runs like a sewing machine except for starting when warm. I have to take it out of gear and give it some gas to start the engine, back to neutral and then forward or reverse. In January I had the lower speed switch box replaced and it worked fine until last weekend. Any thoughts? thanks,

Jim
 

Texasmark

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Re: Hard Starts When Warm

What do you mean give it some gas; putting the shifter in N and advancing the throttle?
 

jims38305

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Re: Hard Starts When Warm

I have to take the engine out of gear with the shifter, advance the throtal and start the engine. Then return the shifter to neutral and then it will stay running....most of the time.​
 

hkeiner

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Re: Hard Starts When Warm

I have to take the engine out of gear with the shifter, advance the throtal and start the engine. Then return the shifter to neutral and then it will stay running....most of the time.​

Please describe the exhaust when it does start. Is is excessively smokey (as if the carbs are flooding) or not smokey (as if the carbs jets are too lean or in need of more choke)? That would help others guide you in the right direction, as the possible causes/solutions would be very different.
 

jims38305

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Re: Hard Starts When Warm

Once I get it started there is some of smoke, but there has always been smoke when I start the engine. Probably more than other boats especially the newer ones. I have just figured it was just being an older engine. After starting the smoke goes away and runs GREAT. I hope this helps.​
 

hkeiner

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Once I get it started there is some of smoke, but there has always been smoke when I start the engine. Probably more than other boats especially the newer ones. I have just figured it was just being an older engine. After starting the smoke goes away and runs GREAT. I hope this helps.​

Some smoke at startup is normal. Too much smoke can indicate a carb problem or oil injection system problem.​

I had a similar starting problems with my 1996 150HP. I had a lot of smoke at startup that went away after the motor ran for 10-20 seconds and then the motor ran fine. I assumed that it was not a carb problem since it ran fine otherwise. It turned out that my oil injection system was being over-pressurized due to a faulty check valve. This caused excess oil to be pushed backwards into the fuel line after shut down resulting in a too oily gas mix in the cylinders at next startup. The gas/oil mix does not ignite as well if it is too oily. I replaced the check valve and my problems went away. Your results may vary. If you pre-mix, of course, this will not apply to you.​

When talking to a mechanic at my local Merc shop about my starting problems, he gave me the advice to make sure that the motor is tilted up/forward a little before turning off the engine. I'm not sure if this was so that any excess fuel will run out the front of the carbs instead of towards the engine or if the float valves just work better with the motor trimed up a little, but it seemed to help. Again, your results may vary.​

Good luck and let us know if you solve your problem and what solved it.​
 
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