damage from sandbar

gettingaboat

Recruit
Joined
Jul 11, 2007
Messages
3
Hi. I'm considering buying a used boat and would really appreciate some advice. The one I'm considering has a 1999 5.7 260hp Mercruiser but I'm not sure about which outdrive it has. The owner said he hit a sandbar. He says the outdrive only needed to be resealed, which he did. The torpedo has a very substantial dent/gouges, the skeg looks like he broke or ground off about an inch, and the aluminum prop is pretty chewed up but usable. The paint is pretty much worn off the lower case. Its supposed to have only 100hrs so I'm assuming the paint was removed on the sandbar. The lower case looks like it *may* (difficult to tell) have been welded vertically from about 2" directly above the prop up to about 2" from where the lower case meets the upper. Should I pass on this one ??? What else should I look for?? Thanks Jeff
 

Haut Medoc

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Jun 29, 2004
Messages
10,645
Re: damage from sandbar

Welcome to iboats.......:)
Depends on the price of the boat & what kind of drive it actually has.....
If it is an Alpha 1, you can pick up a new SEI drive off of ebay for about $1300 shipped......
Figure that into the purchase price, it does not sound like the drive is in good shape at all......
I would examine the tightness of the gimbal ring, bell housing & transom shield, & look for signs of damage/repair as well......
Insist on a test ride & don't be shy with running it, offer to pay for some gas.....:)
 

fourwinnsdook

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Jun 12, 2007
Messages
176
Re: damage from sandbar

I would be iffy. It would probably depend on the price, and you have to think if he was that much inexperienced to do that to it then how has he taken care of the rest of the boat? Oil changes/outdrive lube ETC...
 

gettingaboat

Recruit
Joined
Jul 11, 2007
Messages
3
Re: damage from sandbar

The more I think about it the "iffier" I get. We went to see it on the weekend and the sign in the window said that it had about 110 hrs on it. Then I got an email with some pics a little while ago, and since he didn't know that I'd already seen it, he said it had under 50hrs. The boat is advertised as a 1999, but the hull clearly shows 1996. When we asked about the year he said that the hull sat unused until 99 when it had the 99 engine/outdrive installed. He started at 15000 Canadian but has come down to 10000. It's a Tempest 20' Cuddy on an old trailer thats in poor condition. Maybe I should trust my instincts and RUN !:confused:
 

dirtyoldman

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Apr 30, 2007
Messages
359
Re: damage from sandbar

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dirtyoldman

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Apr 30, 2007
Messages
359
Re: damage from sandbar

I hope my last post wasn't too vague.



There's a reason he's not fixing it himself during prime boating season, whem boats pring a premium.
 

Haut Medoc

Supreme Mariner
Joined
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Messages
10,645
Re: damage from sandbar

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I agree!.........:D
 

180shabah

Rear Admiral
Joined
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Messages
4,995
Re: damage from sandbar

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Ditto!!
 

Rob454

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Oct 9, 2005
Messages
508
Re: damage from sandbar

Yeah i would walk away. Sounds like the guy either has no clue abotu boats or he is jsut lying through his teeth. Probably lying more than anything. I basically am upfront with anyone who wants to buy somethign from me. I tell them what happend and that I got it fixed RIGHT and here is the receipt. if they dont want no biggie there are other buyers.
since the hull is a 96 the boat is considered a 96. the motor he has in it makes no difference. for a 1996 boat I bet you can find a better one for less
Rob
 

Robj

Lieutenant
Joined
Mar 22, 2007
Messages
1,441
Re: damage from sandbar

Or lowball, being aware that it is going to cost you $$$$$ for repair. If you can get it for real cheap and are handy with a wrench, it may be worth it. The seller sounds a little shady so you probably are not getting the full story for the repairs required. I have ran a boat onto a sandbar before, and it did no damage to the boat or outboard. Sand is soft, lifted it off and continued down the river. I think the guy is FOS (full of s@#%).

Have a great day,

Rob.
 

gettingaboat

Recruit
Joined
Jul 11, 2007
Messages
3
Re: damage from sandbar

Thanks all, I'll run, or at least walk quickly:p. After thinking on it a little more, we think we should just look for a small cruiser. They seem to be a lot better deal for what you get. Around here the smaller boats seem to be selling at a premium since fuel has skyrocketed. A lot of people are downsizing instead of going bigger. It also seems that the cruisers generally get better maintenance, and I seem to be way to busy anymore to fix anything. I'm building myself a house right now and would like to just buy ready to go boat. I'm actually building the entire house by myself. Dug the hole for the foundation with a shovel, layed the footings, block, electrical from the pole back, plumbing etc.................yep all of it. I'm almost ready to start drywalling, and frankly I look forward to hitting the water again, and parking my tired but!. Wish me luck, and thanks for the help. Jeff :)
PS Anybody in Southern Ontario Canada with a heck of a deal on a cruiser, please let me know at jeff.sheather@3web.com
 
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