1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Benny1963

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hi i have a 1981 evinrude 150 crossflow sport
i am using surface gap pugs champion .
that is all i have run . some say they are worthless
was wondering what the alternative would be.
benny 1963 thanks
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

i've never had a problem with them.
 

Benny1963

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

yea me either was looking at different post.
thanks.
b 1963
 

Walker

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Your alternative is Champion L77JC4 or QL77JC4
 

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Surface gaps are primarily for sustained high speed operation. Conventional plugs are for slow and average operation. On a ski boat or bass boat, I'd run surface gaps. On a toon or other application where the motor isn't run hard, I'd run conventionals.
 

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Silvertip and I are running 3 cyl Mercs on light boats. He is sold on conventional as compared to the OEM recommended surface gaps and I decided to try them also after reading his posts and chatting. We are both very satisfied.

I don't fit the criteria that apparently caused OEM's to use surface gap...I don't troll for long periods, nor run WOT for long periods. I don't know what his motoring habits are.

Problem with switching is getting the right heat range. He did all the trail blazing and apparently got the right number. Have had mine for about 6 months, look new, no carbon tracks (like surface gaps) and the insulator has a nice tan color. Starts easy, idles smoothly and If I change props (from 24P to 21 for heavier load occasions) and want to run 6000 rpm's all I have to do is goose it....for a big bore 3 cyl. What else could I ask for.

HTH

Mark
 

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Surface gaps will drive you insane if your ignition system is not right up to top-notch perfect. That's where I got most of this grey hair, before they started making L77JC4 plugs.
 

Texasmark

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

We are running NGK which I obtained at NAPA. Don't have the number in front of me but if you want it I can go and get it.

Mark
 

Silvertip

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Be very careful if you intend to switch from SG to conventional plugs. Reach and heat range are critical. Reach can get you in trouble as many conventional plugs have projected noses so they stick farther into the combustion chamber. You need to use a depth gauge to determine how much piston-to-plug gasket surface clearance there is with the piston at the top of the stroke. If your engine has a deflector on the piston crown, make sure that's taken into account in the measurement. This determines "reach". As a starting point in the selection, spend some time on the NGK or Champion web sites analyzing plugs for engines in your engine family. Generally this can be determined by displacement. Go back in years and forward in years to see if there ever was a conventional plug referenced. If there was, try it. WARNING: Do not install the plugs, dash out the lake and hammer down for 5 miles. Pay attention to every detail starting with ---- Starting! Better, worse, the same etc. As the engine warms, again pay attention to the little things that may tip you off that something is better, worse, or the same. Then try a few short part throttle runs where you accelerate to plane, but not using full throttle. If everything seems good so far, make a relatively long run at about half throttle. Chop the throttle and kill the engine as quickly as possible. Read the plugs. If they have the start of a nice light tan, you are now good to go for a "short" high speed run. Listen to the engine and be alert to any sign of a problem. A proper heat range plug will develop the tan color in a relatively short period of time. Until you are certain you made a good choice, check plug condition after every trip. Over time you may determine that a heatrange hotter or colder is necessary. The NGK web site has a very nice descritpion of how heat ranges affect engine operation. Most newer ignition systems can handle .035 - .040 gap. I happen to compromise and split the difference. On a recent outing I stuck the SG plugs back in my engine and could not wait to get them out again. In a nutshell, conventional plugs (in my application) starts better, idles better, gives me about 200 extra rpm and the engine just seems happier with them. As a final word of caution -- if you are mechanically challenged, by all means don't mess with the manufacturers plug recommendations. You should only depart from that recommendation if you know what you are doing and your operating conditions require a plug change. Having a properly tuned engine to start with will eliminate the need to even think about a different plug type.
 

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Re: 1981 evinrude crossflow surface gap or not

Well I guess the plugs you recommended are a no brainer as to whether or not they are correct. No wonder they work and are the right color. Guess I was just lucky to talk to the right guy at the right time about them.

Mark
 
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