Some Very Basic questions

DaRookie

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I am going to take my In-Laws boat out to the lake but before I do I really want to make sure I don't get stuck out in the middle of the lake. The OB is from all that I can tell is a 1977 Chrysler 105HP Model 1209HG S/N 5973. Checking all the posts was helpfull. I have some really basic and rookie questions regarding this motor. It finally started on the muff with a lot of help from starting fluid in the carbs. Out for a test run on the water and motor ran good but would stutter at full throtle. We figured that we may be getting air leaks on the fuel line. I am planning on changing the plugs, since they are older than who knows. Will replace the gas line and bulb from tank since there is a minor leak. I need to know what the proper fuel and oil mixture is since father in-law just looked at the mixture rate on the Marine Oil container. I could not find any difinative posts that really answered this particular model. I also need to know what type of lower case oil to use. I asked the father in law if he ever winterized the motor and he said there really was no need since all the water drained out of the motor. I now know that he may have done more damage than he realized. I would like to enjoy time out on the water but also do not want to get stuck on the water. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated for DaRookie.
 

Nate3172

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

Well, first off, never, never, never, never use starting fluid to try and start a 2-stroke engine. Your grandfather may have done some damage by not winterizing it but I'll bet you did more by using ether on it. Use a spray bottle of mix fuel. Ether is too dry and actually washes away any residual oil that is lubricating the engine at dry start-ups. Once that residual is gone and your engine fires up on the starting fluid than it will take off racing with no oil to lubricate it. Bad deal. Anyway, not trying to make you feel like you are a bad person or anything, but sometimes a little bit of knowledge can be very dangerous. The flutter can probably be associated with the degraded primer bulb. In my opinion you should replace all the fuel line and do a complete cleaning of the fuel system and carburetors. Mix your fuel at 50:1. Definitely change your plugs. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
 
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bowhuntrrl

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

Also, replace the water pump impeller before you kill the motor !!! They need to be replaced every season and do go bad from sitting. The rubber cracks and the vanes will break, the engine will overheat and seize up. I have a Force 85 here right now that someone did that to.
 

rudedude

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

50:1 mix is 16oz ( one pint )of 2 cycle oil to 6 gallons of gas.
 

eedwards

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

I would run a can of sea foam thru it also.
And always winterize it in the midwest!!
If it's the cost boating is the wrong hobby.
 

rudedude

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

Hole in the water you dump money in. :D
 

DaRookie

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

I really appreciate the quick responses and as I said I am definately a rookie so I do not get offended by what you all think is obvious. The responses will save me on the lake I am sure. I did get the lower gear oil from a marine supply as well as new gaskets for the fill and vent plugs as I read on further posts on this site. I may actually get to become a swabby or deck hand after this season. Doubtfull but one can always hope! As for the water pump impeller I really do not know where it is located as I do not have a manual. If you could provide a little further guidance as to where it may be located I would greatly appreciate it. Also, should this part be available from any local marine supplier or will I have to order it on-line since the motor is so old? Again I appreciate the posts.
 

KeltonKrew

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Re: Some Very Basic questions

you have to remove the lower unit (where you're putting your fluid). It's best to have a clymer manual. not a bad job but I wouldn't do it blind!

if it's been sitting for a couple of years I personally wouldn't go out w/out replacing it...they dry rot or get out of shape by sitting......not good for that to go out on you...and there's not much warning.....If you go out w/out replacing it, take plenty of beverages and something to flag down other boaters if you need a tow - and a rope!
 
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