Tom Brady Thoughts

[valkyr]

My thoughts:

If NE keeps running up the scores on teams (especially teams they place 2x a year), one of these teams is going to take a cheap shot at Brady and I can't say I would blame them. I don't believe its Brady's fault, as Belichick calls the shots (or him and his offensive coordinator), but Brady will be the one that pays the price. You get a big defensive lineman thats got more muscle than brains and if he gets close to Brady during the 2nd game he may just decide to take a late hit penalty and Brady will end up out for a couple of weeks.

Teams don't like being embarrassed, though I believe it happened more in the 'old'en' days than it does now (pay-back hits that is).

 

[gonefishie]

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You brought up a good point, it could happen. I think that group (Belichick/offensive coordinator/Brady) was out to prove that they're better then the Colts and Payton Manning. That was why they were going for all the stats, break the single season touch down pass record, etc.. by throwing on 4th down and ran up the score.

 

[JB]

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Hogwash.

Belichick, like many very successful coaches, puts in backups when the game is "settled". Asking players to do less than their best on the field is a ticket to disaster. That includes playcalling as well as playmaking. If the backups kick butt then the butt deserves kicking.

I guess it is unfortunate that they are so good that they have humiliated merely good teams, but no team ever got better except to beat better teams. In my own competitive efforts in life I only got better as a result of getting beat.

Asking or allowing any player to deliberately injure another player is a ticket to long term suspension or outright ban, as well as massive fines. The mere thought would horrify any true professional.

 

[valkyr]

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. The mere thought would horrify any true professional.

I disagree. There have been plenty of NFL players (retired primarily) that have openly talked about taking cheap shots and giving 'payback'. The NFL is one of the few sports where revenge happens. The NFL has a strict policy on "Bounty Hunting" - where players have a pool on who gets the most sacks, or who can hit the QB, etc....Why do they have that policy? Because it happens. Its just like anything else, if you think you can get away with it, and you have the opportunity, and its something you want to do, you'll probably take your shot.

Don't get me wrong. I don't like cheap shots, and I don't agree with players taking it upon themselves to 'right a wrong', but your fooling yourself if you think it doesn't happen in the NFL.

Arguably, the biggest bounty hunting incident occured in 1989 during the Thanksgiving day game between Dallas and Philadelphia. Although I don't think it was ever 'proven'.

NY Times Dec 6, 1989
NFL Bounty Hunting Dispute
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...35751C1A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

 

[Bob_VT]

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I am a big NFL fan. New England is doing fantastic because of Brady. The odds are against him and someone will get to him ...... the only thing I hope for is a quick recovery on Brady's part. People are going to call it head hunting and darn right.... If you don't stop Brady your team will lose! I know the odds are not in his favor. What scares me more is that NE really does not have a backup with the same skill level.

The Pats will dominate this year..... I hope Brady's health holds out.

 

[JB]

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Hitting, tackling and sacks are a legitimate part of the game, and extreme violence comes with them. Pools on numbers are also legit, but there are rules that restrict the timing and nature of the violence.

Fouls, accidental or deliberate, are not part of the game and will earn the perps and their team penalties. Deliberate intent to injure is a felony. . .a criminal act. . .and anyone committing such an act is vulnerable to prosecution. It has happened before.

They don't send wusses onto the field, so there is always the risk of injury in the legitimate course of the game.

I can't say that criminal intent to injure doesn't happen on the field, but I refuse to take it casually, as though it is normal or tolerable behavior. It is not, and I condemn it.

 

[tschamp20]

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the players are paid millions and the fans pay good money to see a game.why should a team stop trying to score just to not hurt some teams feelings.ridiculous.good on the pats for playing a full 60 minutes regardless of the score.
another reason the patriots are the best team out there is the lack of ego.good thing, they'd be exhausted from all the touchdown celebrations.
look im a redskins fan and it showed all of us how truly bad the skins are.

 

[JB]

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I don't think the Redskins are bad. Neither are the Cowboys. I think they are both very good teams.

This year, at least, the Patriots are in a different zone.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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I thought it was pathetic to see grown, well paid men snivel about being disrespected.....
I allways thought that respect was something to be earned......
With all of that whining they disrespected themselves, imho.....
Let's extend it to boxing, "Gee ya saw I was hurt, but you still kept punching me"......
On another note:......
With all of these championships lately, does Boston now think it's New York or sumptin'?.........​

 

[bouttime007]

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the players are paid millions and the fans pay good money to see a game.why should a team stop trying to score just to not hurt some teams feelings.ridiculous.good on the pats for playing a full 60 minutes regardless of the score.
another reason the patriots are the best team out there is the lack of ego.good thing, they'd be exhausted from all the touchdown celebrations.
look im a redskins fan and it showed all of us how truly bad the skins are.

Its not about hurting anyones feelings, its about showing some class as a head coach when youre up by 3 or 4 scores. Belichick isnt exempt from acting within the unwritten (or written for that matter) rules of the game just because he has a few rings.

 

[Rattle-]

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How is this about Tom Brady? He and this team have been nothing but professional since the start of this and every other season. Belichick has changed nothing since 2000!. Whats the problem. Oh yeah, Mr Kraft went out and paid scandalous amounts of money for free agents. These players were available to every other team.
Save your whining for your kids soccer team.
I agree with JB on playing to the end. Aikman would, in no way, lay down to make the other team look respectable. I also like the RedSox...should they have stopped at 2 runs or was 13 way too much??
Get a grip people...Tom Landry, Chuck Knoll, and Jerry Jones would kick your ***** to the curb, if they heard you talkin like this.

 

[gonefishie]

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How is this about Tom Brady? He and this team have been nothing but professional since the start of this and every other season. Belichick has changed nothing since 2000!. Whats the problem. Oh yeah, Mr Kraft went out and paid scandalous amounts of money for free agents. These players were available to every other team.
Save your whining for your kids soccer team.
I agree with JB on playing to the end. Aikman would, in no way, lay down to make the other team look respectable. I also like the RedSox...should they have stopped at 2 runs or was 13 way too much??
Get a grip people...Tom Landry, Chuck Knoll, and Jerry Jones would kick your ***** to the curb, if they heard you talkin like this.

Oh yeah....spying on other teams hand signals was real professional huh? or what about faking injuries so they can set up the defense because they didn't have any timeout left. Nobody expected anybody to lay down or stop playing because that would be a bigger show of disrespect but at least slow down, let the play clock goes all the way down and then kneel. It was the perfect opportunity to put in the back up and give them a chance to play. Basketball is a good example of this practice. You would rarely see all or any of the starting five out on the court if a team is up 20-30 pts with 5 mins left in the fourth. How many of y'all would still be on the bandwagon if Brady got hurt for the rest of the season by staying in the game? How many would be calling Belichick bad names? Oh and Haut, what they did was the equivalent of punching a man when he is down not just hurt.

 

[tschamp20]

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Oh yeah....spying on other teams hand signals was real professional huh? or what about faking injuries so they can set up the defense because they didn't have any timeout left. Nobody expected anybody to lay down or stop playing because that would be a bigger show of disrespect but at least slow down, let the play clock goes all the way down and then kneel. It was the perfect opportunity to put in the back up and give them a chance to play. Basketball is a good example of this practice. You would rarely see all or any of the starting five out on the court if a team is up 20-30 pts with 5 mins left in the fourth. How many of y'all would still be on the bandwagon if Brady got hurt for the rest of the season by staying in the game? How many would be calling Belichick bad names? Oh and Haut, what they did was the equivalent of punching a man when he is down not just hurt.

give me an f'n break. if he gets hurt oh well he can drown his sorrows in the millions of dollars he was paid to PLAY!should plat calls be banned from baseball?and dont bring basketball into this,thats the most ridiculous sport on the planet.yes even more than curling.
on a side not a predict pats 42 colts 21,wait pats 77 colts 21 no wait....

 

[tschamp20]

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excuse my poor spelling above,im on the thrown.gruntttttttt

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Oh yeah....spying on other teams hand signals was real professional huh? or what about faking injuries so they can set up the defense because they didn't have any timeout left. Nobody expected anybody to lay down or stop playing because that would be a bigger show of disrespect but at least slow down, let the play clock goes all the way down and then kneel. It was the perfect opportunity to put in the back up and give them a chance to play. Basketball is a good example of this practice. You would rarely see all or any of the starting five out on the court if a team is up 20-30 pts with 5 mins left in the fourth. How many of y'all would still be on the bandwagon if Brady got hurt for the rest of the season by staying in the game? How many would be calling Belichick bad names? Oh and Haut, what they did was the equivalent of punching a man when he is down not just hurt.[/quote]
Disagree......
That is specifically against the rules...
Why not just introduce a 'mercy' rule to football then?.....
If you are getting whooped that bad, you might as well forfeit.....
Then they have no reason to snivel about disrespect......
Other than disrespecting themselves for being quitters......
If you are getting whooped, throw in the towel

 

[bouttime007]

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Oh yeah....spying on other teams hand signals was real professional huh? or what about faking injuries so they can set up the defense because they didn't have any timeout left. Nobody expected anybody to lay down or stop playing because that would be a bigger show of disrespect but at least slow down, let the play clock goes all the way down and then kneel. It was the perfect opportunity to put in the back up and give them a chance to play. Basketball is a good example of this practice. You would rarely see all or any of the starting five out on the court if a team is up 20-30 pts with 5 mins left in the fourth. How many of y'all would still be on the bandwagon if Brady got hurt for the rest of the season by staying in the game? How many would be calling Belichick bad names? Oh and Haut, what they did was the equivalent of punching a man when he is down not just hurt.[/quote]
Disagree......
That is specifically against the rules...
Why not just introduce a 'mercy' rule to football then?.....
If you are getting whooped that bad, you might as well forfeit.....
Then they have no reason to snivel about disrespect......
Other than disrespecting themselves for being quitters......
If you are getting whooped, throw in the towel

It is also specifically against NFL rules to film other teams signals. Even after the new memo came out by the commish before this season, Belichick did it anyway. I guess some people think they are above the law. Also, taking human growth hormone to bounce back from injury faster is against the rules. Too bad the other 34 year old DBs have to actually keep in shape and heal from injuries by natural means such as hard work and training, while some guys take the sneaky and illegal free ride way out. Who cares about sanctity of the game, right? Lets not get into Belichick cheating on his wife with his mistress while working for the Giants organization. Who cares about the sanctity of a marriage, right? If thats not a shady man who lacks moral fiber, then I dont know what is.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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What hand signals were the defense using other than throwing their hands in the air like a bunch of surrender monkeys?......​

 

[Hoss the Hermit]

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Let he who is without sin, cast the first throne