Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

brobins75

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Ok, what follows below may not make much sense, as I copied and pasted it from another forum Im in (too lazy to rewrite). The basic story is this: I bought a big sailboat-40' Hunter 1986. It was partially sunk. The cabin was removed and salvaged and stored away. I am going to put it back together on a very small budget, and liveaboard. The boat has a lot going for it, just no interior. perfect hull. new sails, new electronics, new roller furler, new ss rigging, no hatch leaks, full canvas (pretty new), new custom ss arch, new autopilot & radar & chartplotter. The sails alone are worth more than I paid for the boat. However, it has been expensive just to get the boat from point a to point b, and marina fees, and storage, and stepping the mast. I am broke, never had much to start with. So please offer me any practical advice that may be useful! Here is my response to members of another forum:

"Im not certain exactly how much water came in, the owner was kinda sketchy, and only told me that it partially sank from the stern. It did hit the 44 Yanmar, but it was immediately pickled and run for 6 hrs according to the yard. He said it sank from stern to midship. He had the interior removed asap, and had the whole cabin steam cleaned by one of those disaster recovery companies (drilled drain holes in the hull above the keel). It sank by siphoning from a faulty seacock in the head, which I need to replace.

The empty cabin looks clean and the fiberglass looks new. I really want to rebuild it as soon as possible.

I am on a very tight budget. I am probably what you call poor. Although, I live on an swanky island and have an obsession with boats. Way beyond my means for a young punk! The boat has pretty much sank me financially, and im strugglin to hold on to everything. I just love boats. I know its an expensive hobby, but its all i breathe. Thats why I bought this boat. It can do double duty--its a boat and I can live on it! But I gotta do some major work to her before I can liveaboard. So, I gotta do this quick before I go "bankrupt" and lose the boat and my home.

Sorry for crazy details, I just wanna explain my situation so I might get some advice on how to get the boat sailin asap, w/o spending a lot of money. I dont care if the boat doesnt look Factory new when Im done! I wanna place to live that I can sail! I know everybody is gonna say something like "you gotta do it right the first time, It'll save you money in the long run", or "if its worth doin, do it right". I DONT CARE! I want it to float, and have a berth for my head. I will fix things along the way.

I need advice on how I should proceed to accomplish this goal. I think its smart to figure out something with the rewire (including bilge pumps, etc)before I put the sole back in, but maybe not? I did check some of the a/c wiring and it looked good a couple inches back. Maybe I can reuse it? the 12v has gotta go for sure. Im tempted just to refinish the old sole and use it, no matter how it looks. Then I would just go to town on the cabin starting from the stern and working fore. Please give me your opinions, accounting for my situation.

Btw, I do have some marine skills, but not everything. Ive worked in boatyards for years and got a few skills. I also get a discount on most any parts/supplies I would need which should help. I started a little service company awhile back and have all the accounts at suppliers. But I might be able to afford $100-150/ every two weeks to get by with. insane right? Thats why I will use Minwax instead of Interlux.

Any advice would be appreciated. I need to have her floating by march 1, no matter what."

Thanks
 

drewpster

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

The first thing I would do is work on getting the thing floating. I do not mean seaworthy, just floating. If the boat is in a slip, and your marina will allow it, you can start living aboard sooner and get rid of the cost of a separate residence. First order of business is to get the cabin dried in and the boat in the water. I have met several single guys who have restored large houseboats by just getting the thing floating and livable, then worry about being comfortable later.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

agree with drew. air mattress, hot plate, 5 gallon bucket. it's just camping in the marina.
 

tommays

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

You really really NEED to get the motor running before going forward as if it dammaged it will be a deal breaker in COST

I would NOT take anybodys word on this


Is the cabin compleatly removed BUT the structural bulkheads left in place :confused:

If you look at how there built at the factory the cabin parts get put in and they drop the deck on the hull which could make things diffcult



Tommays
 

brobins75

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

Good advice. Thats what I was thinking. Get it floating and move in. I already have the vberth semi set up with the mattress, and have spent a few nights onboard pretty comfortable.

The cabin is empty except for the two main bulkeads and the queen size captains berth, which was to big to remove. The heads are still intact as well.

What should I do to ensure the "float worthiness"? I know I need bilge pumps. but electrically, what should I consider? I dont want the boat to sink while im at work. Im trying to decide if i should use 12v bilge pumps and use a home type charger to keep the batteries full for now, or use an A/C bilge pump and plug into shore power?

An old salt I met gave me some discouraging advice. He said my first mistake was paying $4100 to transport the boat. He said it was a fine boat, and he wouldnt hesitate to sail it across the atlantic in its present state! I think that was a bit of exaggeration, but it tells me Im already doing things wrong.

I need a suggestion on what steps I should take first. I can camp out for a long time. So im not worried about comfort. I just dont wanna make a mistake and wait 3 months while i try to scrape up the cash to do a full rewire, and then realize I should have just gone ahead and reinstalled the sole first and worry about electric later.

and the sole, Im poor, what should I do about that? Im thinking just sand it down and paint some minwax on it?

Thanks for the advice.
 

drewpster

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

On possible method would be to flood the inside of the hull. I have heard of guys doing this with the boat on stands. My brother's ex-boss used to do it to big house boats after re-doing steel hulls.
He would finish all the welding then use a water hose to flood the hull. Then it is a simple matter of looking for drips or streams of water coming out of the hull.
Obviously great care should be used not to put too much water in the hull. And having a way to drain the water would be needed.:rolleyes:
 

Nandy

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

I think fixing the motor is more important and expensive than fixing the hull. Just like someone else said, make sure the motor is working good before spending money anywhere else.
 

BillP

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

Short reply is the amount of $$$ you are going to budget isn't enough to do anything with...it's hardly enough to keep the bottom of the boat painted every yr. to keep barnacles off.

Sell the boat piece meal and it will bring enough to buy an older ready to move aboard 30-35' sailboat. A decent 44hp Yanmar will bring $4k-$6k, the mast, boom and rigging $4k+, sails (depending on how many and shape) $2k, roller furling (if it has it) $500, anchor windlass $250+, etc. $10k will buy older 30' sailboats on today's market...$15k will buy 35's.
 

mmaxum2002

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

Sailboat, right? The guy who recommended the air mattress and the 5 gallon bucket is correct. Do you guys all take a class on 'cheap' or is it a requirement of the sport? I'm a marina owner by the way.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

i like my gas money.
 

azlakes

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

Sailboat, right? The guy who recommended the air mattress and the 5 gallon bucket is correct. Do you guys all take a class on 'cheap' or is it a requirement of the sport? I'm a marina owner by the way.

... whelp when you cats charge 90 bucks a month for dry storage, 300 wet, and 200 to change an impeller. we gotts ta scrimp :D
 

oops!

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

wht kinda tools ya got bud?

do you have the basics?

if not....garage sales...

for the sole, used plywood from a construction site.....worry about glass later...but you need a bilge pump....look on craigs list for one....and ask at the dock....someone might have one to give to you.

re use the wire....everything else goes...(you might keep the fuse panel)

thats a start.....i think we need a deeper look at the craft to make "next thing to do suggestions"

can u post pics?
 

BillP

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

Sailboat, right? The guy who recommended the air mattress and the 5 gallon bucket is correct. Do you guys all take a class on 'cheap' or is it a requirement of the sport? I'm a marina owner by the way.

Welscom nabor...
I nevers taked a classs on cheaps. Wered dose I sine up? Hows much dose it costes? Eye can chek undar mys matres tomarro to cee iffin thars enuff dollers to aford it. Iffin I bye a bote fromm ur marina hows muche are it? Xcuse meye riting butt meyes fallse toothes ar mising and mes do'nt talkes tow wel widoute dem.

Biilll P.
 

jennis9

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

ooooh, mmax you're not starting things out on a good note for your first post. We don't do that here.

I'll welcome you to iboats first -- then let you know that the guys here have ton of experience and know-how - adding up their years combined would be quite a number. We respect positive opinions and solutions and are a mix of pleasure boaters, anglers and watersportsmen... and not all of us are wealthy - that doesn't make us cheap either.

Sorry to hijack your post brobins75, can't wait to see your progress - sounds like a big project - but you sound like you have a great attitude and enough energy to get the job done. Picture is worth a thousand words... post some pics so the guys can get you past the point of overwhelmed and get your to-do list prioritized.
 

tommays

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Re: Rebuiliding cabin of sunk boat. 40' Hunter. Beautiful

With the OP not back from december 2007 WHY do you guys get into slinging insults :confused:



I am sure he ran out of money as a water ready J24 keeps my budget taped out :D
 

oops!

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good eye tom....


old thread

had me fooled
 

jennis9

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Crap, got me too. ouch.
 
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