gun buybacks

captn-tin

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anyone know if the cities that hold gun buy backs have to have federal firearms licenses in order to buy the guns back?
 

roscoe

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Re: gun buybacks

ffl is to sell firearms, not to buy them.
 

captn-tin

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Re: gun buybacks

i thought a ffl was needed for all firearm transactions.
 

JB

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Easy, Hoss. He merely asked a question. That is what this place is for.

Makes me wonder, though, do citizens have to have a FFL to sell their guns to the cities? :)
 

Mike722

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Re: gun buybacks

Requirements to buy guns is differant in each state. As with many laws, cities, and states are probably exempt from most of them.

All of the buybacks that I have heard of record the serial number, check to see if a crime was commited with it and then the guns are destroyed. I assume if it was used in a crime it would be kept in storage.

I almost forgot, if it was a stolen gun, then it is returned to the rightfull owner.

If you want to know more, you might try gunbroker.com. They have a forum as well as the auction site.
 

SgtMaj

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All of the buybacks that I have heard of record the serial number, check to see if a crime was commited with it and then the guns are destroyed. I assume if it was used in a crime it would be kept in storage.

I almost forgot, if it was a stolen gun, then it is returned to the rightfull owner.

I certainly hope so, at least they serve SOME purpose. Because they certainly don't do anything to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
 

tashasdaddy

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many churches here, do gun buy backs, no questions asked. the buy back is sanctioned by the sheriff, and he takes control of them. usually destroyed. so they announce a buy back, the crack heads steal the guns, then get $100, to buy more crack. no questions ask.
 

aspeck

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Hmmm, gives me an idea ... I will do a gun buy back ... sounds like a cheap way to get some new hardware! :D

Your right, TD, I don't see where it serves much of a purpose ... alot of the guns turned in are not in working order, and just a mess, but they get their $100 anyway ...
 

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I'm a kentucky longrifle collector. I have friends that are cops in many towns. They usually notify me when the buybacks are taking place. All I want to do is catalog guns that I collect and usually the police/sherrif let me take photos and measure them before they get destroyed. In Winchester Va. I cataloged a John Boneweitz rifle that was made around reading about 1790. It was apeice of art; the guy handed the gun over and received his $25. I would have sold that gun tomorrow for at least $60,000. Makes me kinda woozy. I've seen everything go through these buybacks from junk to art.
 

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I'm a kentucky longrifle collector. I have friends that are cops in many towns. They usually notify me when the buybacks are taking place. All I want to do is catalog guns that I collect and usually the police/sherrif let me take photos and measure them before they get destroyed. In Winchester Va. I cataloged a John Boneweitz rifle that was made around reading about 1790. It was apeice of art; the guy handed the gun over and received his $25. I would have sold that gun tomorrow for at least $60,000. Makes me kinda woozy. I've seen everything go through these buybacks from junk to art.
That is criminal.....:rolleyes:
 

tashasdaddy

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they should have taken that gun and sold it at auction, to get more buyback money.
 

turfman

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Trust me; I've been rejected everytime I go to these things. I'm sure there are acouple things that slip through the cracks, but I'm only assuming.

Imagine a guy standing beside you while you're just doing your job saying, "know how much thats worth" "know how much thats worth" "know how much thats worth"; I'd hate me too!
 

jbjennings

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Very interesting post....I had no idea that "buybacks" were going on in the U.S. I probably have seen it before on the news but blocked it out of my mind so I didn't have to think about it further. That old rifle story was awful. It was probably handed down from generation to gen. until somebody received it who obviously had no appreciation for the craftsmanship and time/effort it took to build it. Very sad story. The more populated our country becomes, the further we get from the kind of life I hoped my son would have.
JBJ
 

JCF350

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Re: gun buybacks

I'm a kentucky longrifle collector. I have friends that are cops in many towns. They usually notify me when the buybacks are taking place. All I want to do is catalog guns that I collect and usually the police/sherrif let me take photos and measure them before they get destroyed. In Winchester Va. I cataloged a John Boneweitz rifle that was made around reading about 1790. It was apeice of art; the guy handed the gun over and received his $25. I would have sold that gun tomorrow for at least $60,000. Makes me kinda woozy. I've seen everything go through these buybacks from junk to art.

Any odds that it was actually destroyed? :eek:
 

SgtMaj

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I cataloged a John Boneweitz rifle that was made around reading about 1790. It was apeice of art; the guy handed the gun over and received his $25. I would have sold that gun tomorrow for at least $60,000.

I think I'm going to be sick... :(

Please tell me they saved it from destruction and donated it to a museum or something?
 

turfman

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I've gone to about 20 buybacks from Va, Pa, Nj and Ny.

Honestly I can say without a doubt that there were no gang members bringing in their guns; but I do believe some skeptical parents or guardians forefitted their guns for fear of kids going bad, or someone breaking into their house and stealing the gun. Also alot of people just don't know what to do with them, or how to get rid of them.

I told the story of the Kentucky rifle because of what it was and the fact that it hits close to home to me cuz I collect them. I can't even begin to tell you how many good guns I've seen tagged and left in a laundry type hopper ready to go to storage and ultimatley the foundry.

One characteristic I've seen in the last couple years, is bring backs from WWI and WWII. Alot of german guns millitary and civilian, One of the best guild guns I've ever seen was at a buyback in Bloomfield NJ. It was a Mannlicher Schoenauer action with absolutley the best engraving and metal work. Octagon to round barrel with a full rib "filed" into the barrel, not attached. You just don't see guns like that here made in the states at any time in history. This gun was definetley made for someone of nobility. Remember: before WWI there were castles spread throughout europe. Those castles were owned by the nobility, and these Dukes, Graf's, whatever were expected to have arms for their own regiments in service to the king or whomever ran their country. After the war these estates were pilfered by the soldiers of the allied armies. Seems the children or grandchilderen of these vets don't have the interest or just don't want to go through the hassle of selling these guns.

I don't see the buybacks doing what they were originally intended to do. Yes they are getting guns off of the streets; but only a very very small % of what guns they targeted in the first place.
 

Mark42

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Re: gun buybacks

I am an OFFICIALLY unregistered participant in the Federal Guns Buyback program. If you have any guns that you want to get rid of, including those with serial numbers scraped off, or that may have been used in any illegal acivity, I can safely collect said arms.

Just send me a PM titled "Alternative Unregistered FederalFirearms Buyback Program".


Disclaimer: The FBI has not officially disapproved my request to be a licenced participant in the Firearms Buyback program, and I am certian that after I actually get around to submitting an application, that they will grant me buyback authority. In the mean while, there is the slightest possability (but not a very high probability) that your firearms will be destroyed in accordance with Federal guidelines. More likely is that the firearms will be reconditioned and resold to needy residents (without any implied warranty) regardless of their legal immigration status in order to get needed firearms in the hands of those who can not otherwise legally obtain or afford them.

:D
 

aspeck

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I am almost with Mark on this, however, any said firearms aquired by me will be reconditioned and added to MY collection ... I want to be able to maintain a well armed and established militia, you know!
 
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