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PD2

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I have a 1988 Johnson 90TLCC. When I turn the key, it turns with a very slow turn, not enough to start the engine and sounds like the battery is dead. It will occasionally fire after several turns of the key. I have also been able to get it to start by hitting the top of the starter. Am I correct that I most likely need a new starter or is there something I may be able to do first? Also, if I do need a new one, how difficult is that to do yourself?

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HighTrim

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1) Battery Load tested and FULLY charged to 12.65 volts?

2) With that battery out of the boat (because I know you are getting it load tested right ) it is a good time to polish all connections. Don’t just look at them, make them shine! Also inspect the wiring thoroughally, buldges in the insulation or crunching as you flex it are a sure sign that the wiring is corroded internally. Replace as needed.

3) With the cables clean and tight and a good battery, you can now see if the problem occurs. If it doesn't you are golden. If it still doesn't work or works sporadically, check and clean the remaining cable connections on the solenoid and the starter. Once again, don’t just look at them, make them shine.

4) If it now works you are ready to go fishing. If not, use a short jumper wire to short the small terminal on the solenoid to the large terminal on the solenoid (the one that has the POSITIVE battery cable connected to it). Be prepared for a spark. You are really doing the same thing that the ignition key does in the START position. If the engine spins fine every time, you either fixed the problem, or if not, the problem is in the harness between the engine and ignition switch.

5) Disconnect and inspect the large red harness plug in the cowl. Clean it as best you can with electrical contact cleaner, smear some grease around the contact edges and reconnect. Now use the ignition switch to try and start the engine. If it works every time the connector was the culprit. If not, you now need your trusty voltmeter.

6) Put the POS voltmeter lead on the small terminal on the solenoid. The NEG lead goes to ground. Have someone turn the ignition key to START. If you don't see 12V troubleshoot the harness between the engine and control box. If 12V is present every time, the switch is good.

7) Measure the voltage at the starter (+) terminal while somebody turns the key over to "start" - if you get within half a volt or so of the battery voltage, the starter is faulty.

Bad voltage at starter (with clean tight connections), measure the voltage at the solenoid small terminal with the yellow/red wire with the key turned over to "start" you should read within a half-volt of battery voltage, otherwise you have a wiring fault between the keyswitch & solenoid. Good voltage at solenoid but bad voltage at starter means faulty solenoid.

8) Now connect a single jumper cable between the POS battery terminal and directly to the large terminal on the starter. If the starter spins each time you do that, the solenoid is likely the culprit.

9) Connect another jumper cable to the NEG battery terminal and a good ground (bare bolt head or bracket) on the engine. Now do the same test you did in step 8. If the starter now goes ok, you still have a negative battery cable problem or the solenoid is bad.
 

ezeke

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If the battery is good (any battery store should load test it for free), your first step should be to replace the 20 year old battery cables.
 

PD2

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Thanks for your responses; I really appreciate that. You've given me some direction.
 

HighTrim

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I would start with the battery and wiring though. Dont ignore the wiring and connections, replace the wiring as needed and make those connections shine, then re tighten. Very possible that will fix you up. If not a voltage drop test will likely find your culprit after that. Good luck.
 

PD2

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Will do. I'll let you know how it goes.

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I use a wire brush wheel on the cordless drill, usually hardware stores or automotive stores, cheapest I found was harbor freight, come in pack of three different sizes and sure makes cleaning the connections and ground connections easy to do.
 

PD2

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I thought I had a starter problem but followed your advice and got it resolved. I added water to the battery, charged it overnight, and thoroughly cleaned the connections. It's cranking easily now. Thanks for the advice.
 

tashasdaddy

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proper preventative maintenance goes a long way.
 

PD2

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Yes indeed. I had obviously neglected some of those items.
 
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