replacement vhf antenna

Dough614

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whats better stainless or fiberglass, and best length for either 3' , 5' , 8' ?
 

JB

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

Each is better for what it does best.

I always got best range with the tall fiberglass antennae, but because I am a fisherman I preferred the short SS with loading coil.
 

arks

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

I've had VERY good performance from my 8' Shakespeare Galaxy. Use a HD bracket- those cheap plastic ones don't hold up.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

i've used both. about equal for short distance, the 8' better for long distance.
 

BillP

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

VHF is technically line of sight but in terms of antenna range it goes from shortest to longest...

3db (round reception beam)
6db (oval reception beam)
9db (flat reception beam)


4' SS antennas are usually 3db for sailboats and/or shorter range requirements than 6 or 9.

8' glass antennas are normally 6 & 9db...9db reaches out about half again farther than 6db.

Most small powerboats use an 8' antenna with 6db for best distance without dropping signals as the boat rocks and rolls. Big stable power boats and land base stations use 9db antennas.
 

SuperNova

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

I've had VERY good performance from my 8' Shakespeare Galaxy. Use a HD bracket- those cheap plastic ones don't hold up.
Funny, I can never seem to raise you...:rolleyes: Maybe it's MY antenna that's faulty....;)

Ditto's on the good quality mount though..
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

Yes you can't forget that VHF is line of sight, plus a little bit. VHF signals seem to curve over the Earth's surface about 1/3 further than a beam of light over the same area. Nobody really knows why, it just happens.

If you put a 3 foot on top of a 5 foot mast, you'll get almost the same performance as an 8 foot mounted on the bottom of the boat (in theory). Altitude, and not so much gain, makes the difference, although yea a higher gain antenna will pull in weaker signals, it can only do so much. The ideal situation is an 8 foot mounted on about a 50' pole on your boat. Obviously that isn't feasible so just get it as high as practical. I would even go so far to say that if you can mount a 3' whip safely higher than you could mount an 8' fiberglass, I'd go with the 3' any day. Again, altitude is your friend in a VHF setup.

An interesting FYI, did you know that a HAM operator can talk to the space shuttle with a 5 watt handheld? Radio waves don't stop, they just hit something and reflect.

Oh yes, something for all you VHF people out there. If you venture out beyond the range of your radio during the day and something happens, just wait until nighttime and try again. The atmosphere is much more conducive to "skip" at night for VHF than during the day. You just might have a chance if you save your battery for night time.
 

arks

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

Funny, I can never seem to raise you...:rolleyes: Maybe it's MY antenna that's faulty....;)

Hey Stan- How 'ya been?
Maybe I'm just not listening when you call! ;)
 

SuperNova

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Re: replacement vhf antenna

I thought it was just the curvature of the Earth across the wide expanse of the Flats...I NEVER thought you were just not listening...
 
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