transom tie downs

billjd

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Question, if your boat , motor and extras weight around 2400 lbs, what rating would you be looking for in a trailer transom tie down ratchet strap. Would a 1 1/2 inch wide with a working load limit of 1300lbs and a breaking limit of 3900 lbs be about right?
Thanks a bunch

Bill
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: transom tie downs

well, what i consider is the idea is to keep the boat and trailer together, i go with one rated for the trailer weight. plus 500lbs. one goes airborne, it all goes.
 

Zero Balance

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Re: transom tie downs

Man it would take quite a stunt to get my trailer and boat airborne. I don't use one. I did at first but the boat and trailer weigh almost as much as my Suburban. I'd have to fly over RR tracks doing say 50mph to get that sucker in the air. If that happend well,,, I'm not thinkin straps would help.

I look at it like this. I use a very strong saftey chain. If my boat and trailer dump, the only concilation would be when the wrecker flipped the mess back over they would still be attached. Not much of a consilation to me so I gave up the effort of using them.
 
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Re: transom tie downs

On a family road trip (think Wally World type) I remember my dad driving over a muffler in our family van. It was lying in the middle of the interstate, he couldn't see it because of traffic ahead and couldn't swerve much to avoid it. I hit the ceiling while sitting in the back of the full size van! I probably weight only 100lbs though!

The point is, it wouldn't take more than a boat/car/truck part laying in the middle of the road to launch your boat. That's why I keep mine tied down, but to each their own.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: transom tie downs

all state laws require you to control your load. if it is not strapped down, it is not controlled. thus you will be at fault, in any incident.
 

bhammer

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Re: transom tie downs

I was once following a pretty large boat, about 21' and was all of the 8'6" and I would guestimate that it weighed 3500#. In front of him, a guy lost his load of PVC pipe off a flatbed. The boat slammed brakes and swirved. No tie downs, and the starboard side of his boat came up and the whole boat slide and wasn't on the trailer correct. When we all stopped, he got the straps out of the back of his truck and used them to get the boat back on the trailer correct.

Point is, you never know what is going to happen and it's better to be prepared.
 

rallyart

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Re: transom tie downs

Always use them. What you've suggested is fine.
You only need enough strength to pick up the trailer. If the boat it going up then so does the trailer. That means about 500 lb each for strength but you should have much higher than that due to age, wear, and a safety factor.
 

reelfishin

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Re: transom tie downs

About 20 years ago I was following a guy with a boat on a trailer, I'm not sure of the make, but I'd guess maybe an older MFG or similar about 18' long. I had just noticed that his boat was moving around on the trailer when all at once it was sideways in front of me at about 50 mph with no time to react. I was driving an early Toyota FJ55 Land Cruiser with a winch bumper and brush grille and when I hit the boat, all I heard was a loud pop sound and very little impact. I pretty much just drove right through it. When I pulled over, there was no boat to be found, just debris all over the road and an outboard and a pair of seats. I found only one dent on the hood, which we figured to be from either the windshield frame or maybe a seat. The outboard was still spinning in the road when I got out of the truck. The car behind me, a police car, also got covered in glass and debris. The driver was going ballistic over loosing his boat when the police put him in the back of the car with a warning that it was all his fault and that even the officer had seen that the boat was not tied done in anyway.

The best I could figure was that the boat was only held on by the winch which was wound with clothes line and tied directly to the boat with no hook.
Either the rope broke or his knot didn't hold and the boat had taken off skyward when he gained enough speed.
The truck I was driving was my fishing truck, so another dent or a few scratches didn't matter much to me, we actually thought it was pretty funny that all that was left looked a lot like feathers on the road.

It wasn't a case of not tying it down properly, he didn't tie it down at all. I don't remember the exact list of tickets he got, but he got at least 5 in all.
I would guess "Loaded to spill" and "Failure to maintain control" were among them. All in all it wasted an afternoon that could have been spent fishing on my part, but those in the truck with me didn't stop laughing all day after that and still bring it up after all this time.

So long as the straps are rated to handle which ever is lighter, the boat or trailer they should be fine. the worst case scenario would be a collision in which the boat is thrust forward. In most cases though, the transom eyes would fail long before most straps. A good bow tie down turnbuckle will do more to keep in on the trailer than the rear straps in a collision.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: transom tie downs

Use a safety chain/cable of some sort on the front and tie downs on the rear.
I have the boat buckle.
Pull it up and hook it, give the handle a good jerk and it's tight.
Mounts to the trailer and is recoiled like a seat belt when you unhook it.
 

jeffnick

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Re: transom tie downs

I used to think that the strap's job was to keep the boat and trailer together (trailer weight + #500), that is until a buddy rearended a guy while he was towing his boat -- the straps just snapped and the boat ended up on top of his truck. The truck was totaled, the boat barely damaged. If the straps had held the boat on the trailer he would have been much better off...if he'd have been going a little faster when he hit it could have been all over for him. Since then I like the total capacity of the straps to equal the weight of the boat.
 

Al Kungel

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Re: transom tie downs

Get the strongest tie-downs that you can get and use them. I not only use the front safety chain, the transom tie-downs but also a strap over the gunwhales.

You will be surprised how easily a boat will move on a trailer. Sometimes when I bring my boat out of the water it is not sitting all the way forward on the trailer. All I do is when the trailer is on the flat ground I just drive forward about 5 feet and hit the brakes and the boat will move 2 - 4 inches forward without any problem. So just image you are driving at 60 mph and you have to slam on the brakes or you hit a pot-hole or a bump on the road without transom tie-downs!!
 

Camlocker

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Re: transom tie downs

Tie downs are a very cheap form of insurance. I use them on anything I pull. Always expect the unexpected and never assume that it won't happen to you.
 
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