1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

ryerman

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Just replaced my thermostats and impeller, was thinking about a head temp gauge, (warning horn works fine) but it looks like a water pressure gauge is a better way to go? I can't find any tech info on the correct pressure gauge that hooks to tell tale water outlet. Anyone have a part number that works for this application. Many thanks.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

all the connection at the motor for a pressure gauge is a "T" where the tale tell hose connects.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

The water pressure kits come with a tee to cut into the tell-tale line. The original elbow for your tell tale has a very short line that runs to the floor of the lower cover; that line should be lengthened and run to the top of the engine then back to the outlet fitting. The tee is normally added as close to the outlet elbow as reasonable.

There are two different pressure ranges for the kits; you will want the lower, smaller range (0-30 PSI).

Of the two gauges you mentioned, the temperature gauge is probably the one that you will find most useful because neither the water pressure gauge nor the tell-tale give you any indication as to whether or not water is actually making its way through the cooling passages of the engine.

The temperature gauges give you an early heads-up when you are running too cool or too hot and have saved many an engine.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

Thanks ezeke.
I'll have to contact TeleFlex Marine to see what pressure gauge/temp gauge
would adapt to my old 85.
As far as the temp gauge go's, I guess it would have to be an external sending unit that would mount to a head bolt on the engine?
I thought about inserting a mechanical temp probe into the thermo housing via one of the two thermo housing hoses, and then siliconing and clamping it tight, but I think that may pinch the capillary tube, and it might leak around the hose also. Any suggestions?
Maybe I'm just a little paranoid, as the warning horn saved me last time, and that's all that's needed.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

the pressure guage usually tells you more about the impeller, the temp guage about the tstat. i hate guages, only somethings else to malfunction, and make you worry. test the horn, if it works go boating and relax. get a sea tow, or tow boats membership, and have fun.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

"As far as the temp gauge go's, I guess it would have to be an external sending unit that would mount to a head bolt on the engine?
I thought about inserting a mechanical temp probe into the thermo housing via one of the two thermo housing hoses, and then siliconing and clamping it tight, but I think that may pinch the capillary tube, and it might leak around the hose also. Any suggestions?
Maybe I'm just a little paranoid, as the warning horn saved me last time, and that's all that's needed."

The Z-bar connector for the temp sensor has been around a very long time and has always been effective; it puts the sensor in contact with the cylinder head cover surface and will give you a quick and reasonably reliable index to check when you are at the helm. It isn't the perfect accuracy of the reading but rather the fact that you get to know where the gauge normally reads when your particular engine is running well.

The temp sensor is a variable resistance electrical device and the connection to the gauge is a single wire. The sensor has to have a solid electrical ground with the engine block to function.

The problem with the horn alarm is that it does not function until the water temperature is almost at the boiling point, so that in very many instances damage is already done before there is any warning.

If temperature gauges were not significant, they would have removed them from cars decades ago.
 

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Re: 1978 85Hp water pressure gauge install

Ok thanks. The Z bar sounds like the way to go. Along with my Boats US tow package and temp sensor I should be in good shape, and I'll have to avoid that sand/mud bar that started all this worry in the first place, but it got me to replace the impeller and thermostats.
As far as mounting the Z bar temp sensor, is there a preference as to the starboard or port cylinder head?
 
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