Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

ebry710

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

I of course bought a whaler. So my opinion is pretty biased. A whaler is a multifunction platform. The early 17' skips across the water and is just so much fun to use.

A 21' Bayliner cuts the water and was designed as a pretty boat with reasonable pricing.

They both float, that would end their similar characteristics.
 

saumon

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Wow...what a comparison! Two completely different boat types with completely different use patterns.

As Tashasdaddy said, I don't think you know what you want at all. Maybe we should revisit your goals for your boating. Realistically, what do you think you're going to do with your boat? Realistically.

Given that you've been looking for a couple of years, and still haven't bought a boat, I'm betting that you'll end up using up garage space rather than using the boat.

I don't think I could stand not having a boat of some kind. If I didn't have any money, I'd watch Craigs List for a freebie and get back on the water.

If you're just in love with the idea of boating, and are satisfying your urge by looking for a boat, then you're on the right track. I'd add some boat shows to your quest.

If you really, really want to go boating, buy something that floats and has a working engine. It probably won't be the boat you'll be using two years from now, but you'll at least be on the water. You'll find all sorts of things you don't like about it, and will be smarter the next time you buy a boat.

Given the enormous range of boat types you've mentioned here as possibilities, you're simply not going to know what kind of boat you'll finally like until you start driving your boat around.

There are no boats that don't make noise. There are no boats that don't bounce around a bit in rough water. There are no boats that combine suitability for river fishing, lake fishing, and ocean fishing with water skiing, tubing, and cruising. None. There are no used boats that can't stand a little sprucing up to make them feel newer.

Buy a boat. Don't spend a fortune. Just buy something that floats and has a running engine. Get a cheap boat, then use the heck out of it. After a full season of use, sell it and buy one that will better suit your needs, since you'll have discovered what your needs are in that season.

Get wet. Get dirty. Get bounced around a little. Go slow. Go fast. Go fishing. Have a picnic on an island somewhere after pulling your boat up on a beach. Tie up at a local restaurant that has a dock and swap stories with the others who have done the same. Drag someone around on a tube for an hour or two. Dive off the boat in some quiet cove and swim around, then climb back in and speed away. Get a sunburn on your face because you forgot the sunscreen, then watch it peel over the next week. Kiss someone on the water somewhere.

Mix some fuel and oil. Change the oil in a lower unit. Put in some spark plugs. Bang the boat against a dock on a windy day and look at the scratches that caused. Clear weeds off the lower unit of your outboard or outdrive while hanging off the transom. Curse a rock that has dinged your prop. Curse the anchor that snagged up on a rocky bottom, then go buy a new one and and a new rope.

Come back to the launch ramp on a day where the wind came up while you were out and struggle to get your boat back on its trailer. Get some help from another boater, and help another boater. Forget your pfds and have to drive home to get them. Forget your boat key on your dresser and have to drive home to get them. Forget to put in the transom plug and have to run the bilge pump for an hour after you put it back in. Lose a prized fishing pole over the side.

Buy a boat. Any decent boat. Go boating!

Wow, this awesome post should definitely be put somewhere in a "sticky" under the title "First-time boat owner, wich boat to choose"!
 

Mark42

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

I agree with everything everyone else said. So I won't bother repeating it here. :D
 

QC

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Me too . . . missed it first time around Cat's post is awesome!
 

CATransplant

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Aw, shucks, you guys! Now I have to buy a bigger hat for my swollen head. :D
 

QC

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

I have two friends that bought brand spanking new boats and didn';t know what they needed, wanted or what the family would tolerate.

The first one (23' Maxum) went back for gelcoat repairs at least three times in the first season. He also lost four anchors. Boat sat for a couple of years then they sold it.

Second guy bought a 256 SSi Chap, 8.1 Volvo. One season, family didn't help, didn't know anything, arguments, gelcoat repairs, now a divorce and a beautiful boat sitting that needs someone to love her.

BTW, I tried like heck to get both of them to start out used and smaller . . .
 

kandil

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Excellent thread I am surprised I am the only one voted!!
 

saumon

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Aw, shucks, you guys! Now I have to buy a bigger hat for my swollen head. :D

And a bigger boat to fit into, but if you do so please don't ask us what should you choose between a pontoon and a Baja ;)
 

Splat

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Nice post CAt, the very reasons I love boating. Well done.

Bill
 

kandil

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Hi Cat can I use this part of your post as my signature? (Get wet. Get dirty. Get bounced around a little. Go slow. Go fast. Go fishing.)
 

frankie g

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Whaler...known for there smooth ride... :eek: there just as bad as Carolina Skiffs
 

kandil

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Thank you I see TD made a new thread out of your great post;)
 

kandil

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Get wet. Get dirty. Get bounced around a little. Go slow. Go fast. Go fishing.

Sorry for the double post I wanted to cut and paste my new signature with the proper credit to CATransplant
 

ebry710

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Re: Which rides better: 17' Whaler or 21' Bayliner

Excellent thread I am surprised I am the only one voted!!

Voted? I am easy.....buy a Whaler. I just never thought of a whaler as a smooth rider. Fun, safe, stable, versatile, an investment, hold it's value, easy to maintain, unsinkable, and a boating icon, but I bought mine to jump waves and have fun. I have to admit the 18' Outrage cuts waves a little more than the 17' Montauk.
 
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