Sea Ray Project

erikgreen

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Re: Sea Ray Project

So let me get this right... even if I get it nice and smooth then roll on gel coat do you think I will still need to paint over it???

No, and I was surprised you were planning on it. Usually people do one or the other.

I'm completely fine with white my concern with using it was getting it smooth to an extent.. My thought was to get it smooth and then roll on another layer or paint it with non-skid additive added to it... but If I prep the deck and get it nice and smooth before rolling on gelcoat that won't be needed right???
You won't need to smooth the gelcoat if you don't want it smooth. You should be able to smooth the deck so no major dings show, then apply gelcoat with anti-skid and end up with a nice waterproof, anti-skid deck.
I can just roll on the gelcoat with the non-skid additive added in it? If this works for the deck then I will do this for the complete boat and just smooth out the areas that I plan to paint designs on. Would that be the wrong approach???
Rather than coating over and smoothing later, I'd mask off the areas you want to keep smooth and avoid getting them covered in the first place. Anti-skid compound is usually silica, IE you're adding sand or rock dust to your coating...makes it very, very hard to sand later.

what I'm trying to acheive is a long lasting finish that will handle the environment, and won't chip easily due to dropping let say fishing rods, people leaning and walking on it, and coolers being bumped up against it. The main use for my boat is going to be fishing, but I was something that is durable and is going to be able to hold up to being used quite frequently. Please let me know if I have the wrong approach or if you have a better suggestion on how to acheive everything that I need/want.

I'm learning a lot... Thank you...

Okay, sure. Lots of folks want a nice, solid deck that won't chip or show wear easily, is waterproof, and looks good. There are a lot of solutions.

What the factory would do for a modern boat is gelcoat the floor with anti-skid patches on it, and maybe add carpet.

For a restoration like my own boat, I'm going to glass a wooden floor (completely encapsulate the wood to prevent rot) then paint an epoxy paint over that, adding anti-skid where needed.

Some people here have had excellent results with bed liner spray ons or roll on kits... basically the stuff that coats pickup truck boxes. You can do a kit of this yourself or pay someone to spray it. It's basically an indestructible rubbery layer that handles anything you can do to a boat... remember it's designed to have pallets of eg. cinder blocks put on it and not get messed up. If you do this, make sure to pick a non black and non white color... so it doesn't get either too hot or too bright in the sun.

Any of these will work for you... depends on what you want. If you have a fiberglass floor already, you can make sure it's waterproof and reasonably smooth, then coat it with gelcoat or paint and anti-skid. Like I've mentioned, not many people use gelcoat this way because it's hard to sand and if it doesn't set up the way you want it to look, you've got a lot of work to fix it. Epoxy paint or bedliner are equally or more durable and a lot easier to use.

Erik
 
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ok.. Well this is what I think I'm going to do.. I went to storage yesterday and completed fiberglassing the floor.. see pictures below... the next step I'm' going to do is smooth out the floor and the remainder of the boat.. Now I think this will be the last question from me before I get under way... If I were to smooth out everything as I mentioned, then "spray" the gelcoat as my top layer should the gelcoat come out shiney??? The only part that will have non-skid additive to it will be the deck... I'm off to the store this morning to get some putty, glaze, and sanding disks for both my orbital sanding and grinder to start my days of sanding... I have maybe 4 more peices to complete on the boat before I start the never ending sanding process, but those can be completed in a matter of minutes... As it stands right now she is pretty much sealed up and ready for some sanding...

Oh.. Ok.. sorry I guess I do have one more question... spraying gelcoat.. What would be the smallest size nozzle you would use??? do you think this guy from harbor freight would work??? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92841

Thank you..
 

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ondarvr

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You should do a search here on "spraying gel coat" and you'll see what's involved.

Gel coat will not be shiny or smooth after its sprayed, there will be a great deal of sanding and buffing for it to look good.

When using gel coat for the non skid, its much easier to roll it on.
 

bdacjl

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I am in the middel of renovation on a 1986 Searay Seville... got most of the rotted floor out and will start going back in with new floor soon.. where did you find the ski access door that goes in the floor?? I will need the door and the trim piece... thanks for the posting.. makes me feel as if I have hope after all..
 
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I am in the middel of renovation on a 1986 Searay Seville... got most of the rotted floor out and will start going back in with new floor soon.. where did you find the ski access door that goes in the floor?? I will need the door and the trim piece... thanks for the posting.. makes me feel as if I have hope after all..

I found the Ski locker door at this used boat yard called "Budget Boats" in Chesapeake VA, but you can get different one from places like ebay. I lucked up on that one, but they have a few different ones there. I prefer the non-wood type, but both look pretty decent. Let me know what you find, I can compare prices with you and may be cheaper to get it from them. Anyway, I am going to look up your rebuild.. Have you posted on here with your rebuild??? I'm trying to get my rebuild done so I can maybe fish for some tautog this winter... Well let me know if you have any questions or suggestions, from what I see, this year SeaRay Seville is a pretty good boat. I have seen a few of them around here. I hear they are good on gas and pretty quick on the ocean...
 
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So it has been a while since I have posted on the update of the boat.. just wanted to let everyone know that once I fiberglassed the deck and all exposed areas, I finally started gel coating the boat. This is no easy task... I guess I'm not coordinated enough to roll and tip so I just "painted" the gelcoat on with a paintbrush and will sand it down to smooth out later. Attached are some pictures of the boat, I will put better pics up at a later date. Please let me know what you all think.. In the pics the gelcoat looks smooth, but by no means is it really smooth it looks painted on up close, but better than where the boat was.
 

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