Close call for USMMA cadet

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The mother of a Long Island student sailing aboard a freighter attacked by Somali pirates wielding rifles and rocket-propelled grenades Tuesday said the crew survived by following survival tactics they had practiced during their voyage.

"I have communicated with him and he is fine," said Mary Tosetto, of Plano,
Texas. "I'm a mother, so of course I'm relieved to hear from him."

Her son John Tosetto, 22, is a third-year student at the
U.S. Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point. He is sailing with the Liberty Sun to fulfill a requirement that midshipmen spend at least 300 days at sea aboard merchant vessels.

The 738-foot Liberty Sun, which is owned by Liberty Maritime Corp., of
Lake Success, was boarded by pirates some 280 miles southeast of the Somali capital of Mogadishu sometime after 11:30 a.m. New York time on Tuesday. The crew survived by locking themselves in the engine room, as pirates fired rifles and rocket-propelled grenades from the passageway outside.




The ship, carrying food aid for hungry Africans, was damaged "pretty badly" on its bridge, a U.S. official said. A Navy spokesman said the USS Bainbridge destroyer - skippered by Cmdr. Frank X. Castellano, of Bellport - was five hours away when it received a distress signal. Capt. Jack Hanzlik, of the U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Fla., said the pirates fled before the Bainbridge - which on Sunday rescued American merchant Capt. Richard Phillips from three Somali pirates - reached the embattled freighter.

Mary Tosetto said her son sent her an e-mail from the Liberty Sun, saying the crew had followed anti-pirate procedures and had emerged without any casualties. It docked safely in Mombasa, Kenya, early Thursday.

"Everyone is safe, and everyone is fine and everyone performed as they had been taught to do," Mary Tosetto said.

The mother of Thomas Urbik, another sailor aboard the Liberty Sun, confirmed to Newsday an
Associated Press recounting of an e-mail her son sent as the pirates attacked Tuesday EDT.

"We are under attack by pirates, we are being hit by rockets. Also bullets," said an e-mail received by Katy Urbik, of
Wheaton, Ill. "We are barricaded in the engine room and so far no one is hurt. [A] rocket penetrated the bulkhead but the hole is small. Small fire, too, but put out."

Katy Urbik received another e-mail about 90 minutes later, which read: "The navy has showed up in full force and we are now under military escort. . . . All is well."

Capt. Jon Helmick, a security expert at the academy who has supervised the development of maritime security standards for the
United Nations, said the reported actions by the Liberty Sun crew were consistent with practices taught at the academy.

"That is actually a common protocol," Helmick said, "to get into an interior space with locks that can't be accessed from the outside to prevent hostage-taking."

This story was

supplemented with an Associated Press report.





John and the crew are okay, but the situation is not okay.
 

jonesg

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Can't they figga out how to organize themselves into protected convoys?
 

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Somalia has a coastline equivalent to the entire east coast of the USA. Attacks take place from 20 miles to 300 miles from the coast. Every vessel in the western Indian ocean passes in close proximity to transit the Suez. Vessels from 40ft private vessels, 100 ft tugs and fisherman, to 900 ft tankers have been hijacked and pirated. The size of the area, the volume of vessels and complexity of types makes international convoys a major undertaking. The only resolution comes from squashing the source supporting piracy. Everything else is a bandaid after the injury.
 

fishdog4449

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greatttt. that'll be me in two years =D
 

GrindKore

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I don't understand why they do not allow merchant ships passing that area to arm them selfs? A couple of M240 machine guns on a stern and bow hard-mounted would take care of these assholes from 500 yards ez mode. It's not like these pirates have a large Navy, they approach vessels in small skiffs making them easy targets while they would have no chance to aim their shots in 4' to 5' oceanic swells at that distance.
 

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greatttt. that'll be me in two years =D

are you going to marine school??

i will be going to school this fall, will be taking my bridgewatchmans for starters and work my way up from there. but a friend of mine is in school to become a cadet. crazy stuff out there.

ill stay in the local waters, lol
 

angus63

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I don't understand why they do not allow merchant ships passing that area to arm them selfs? A couple of M240 machine guns on a stern and bow hard-mounted would take care of these assholes from 500 yards ez mode. It's not like these pirates have a large Navy, they approach vessels in small skiffs making them easy targets while they would have no chance to aim their shots in 4' to 5' oceanic swells at that distance.

Arming a vessel changes it's status, restricting entrance to territorial waters and ports in many locations. Crews on merchant vessels are civilian and not trained, licensed or insured. Volatile cargo (crude, bulk grain, LNG, etc...) creates the problem of accidental discharge or sabbatage. Background checks are not in place. I applaud your sentiment, but unfortunately we will not see it anytime soon. Military assistance and privately chartered armed guards are the current remedy until the source of piracy is squashed.
 

fishdog4449

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Not if I can help it son!! Be sure to stop in and see me when you are here next. Will that be indoc?

Thanks! But I'm not at all worried about it. Yup, I believe it's july 9? Signed on the dotted line a week or two ago and sent all the paperwork in.
 

jay_merrill

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Then I would say its time for privately chartered armed guards - heavily armed guards. I hate to sound like a John Wayne "shoot em up" type, but frankly, its time TO SHOOT EM UP!

The simple fact of the matter is that this has gotten completely out of hand, and difficulty of the task or not, we must act. Now.
 

Vlad D Impeller

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This piracy menace can be solved very cheaply within a week or two with the use of a few armed predator drones with extended loiter, the risk of collateral damages are none, innocent civilians are not in question, set up a few bait targets and voila! It'll be like swatting flies on a turd.
 

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Thanks! But I'm not at all worried about it. Yup, I believe it's july 9? Signed on the dotted line a week or two ago and sent all the paperwork in.

See you then!!! The time to get in shape is now !
 

angus63

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Friday evening on ABC 20/20, there will be video of piracy evasion filmed today at USMMA.
 

tx1961whaler

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It would take a bunch of ships, satellite recon, drones, and spies on the ground. Spies tell you where they are and when they're leaving, satellites pick them up and feed the info to the ship, ship controls drone, Hellfire missile takes care of boat. The "pirate" guys are in it for the money, and when it isn't worth their while anymore they'll find something else illegal to do.
 
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