Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

tdp05

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After trying my luck and upgrading from my 10' Zodiac with her whopping 5HP electric motor, I took a gamble and purchased an Egg Harbor Yacht. Being this vessel was all wood and older, I quickly learned the downfalls to owning a wood hulled vessel. Got the twin antique engines running smooth as a babies bottom and that was as far as I got. With the amount of work she needed to get her back to a glorified vessel, I decided it would be best to pass her on to someone who has the knowledge and know-how of how to work on a wood vessel (not that I couldn't, but it was more than I could handle alone). So, the Egg was passed on, and I have taken on a new project....

1974 Winner Convertible. She was a steal in my opinion for a whopping 800.00 with the trailer. After getting her home and parked nicely beside the house, the look over of the interior of the boat was better than I thought it would be....it is in good shape, however, the interior is wood, and well, after the Egg experience, I came to the conclusion that wood is just not for me. So, the wood has been removed, completely, floors, walls, tables, seats, etc. It's gutted right to the hull.

Next came the engine problem....it was seized according to the previous owner for letting it sit behind his house for 10 years. Oh joy, but no worries, I have the motivation to see what the problem is. After a couple days of soaking in PBlaster into the cylinders and not getting it to come loose, I removed the outdrive, and pulled the engine. Once in the workshop, I started dismantling the engine to get a better look at what was going on. As soon as the heads came off, the problem showed itself. A slight bit of rust buildup on two of the cylinder walls was the culprit. A bit more PBlaster in the cylinders and a good wrench on the wheel and pop, she busted loose. Not that she is turning kindof ok, I decided to go ahead and do the works and have a look at the internals. Flipped the motor over, removed the oil pan and SURPRISE the internals are like NEW. Totally clean with zero rust inside. After looking over my trusty manual and realizing that the internals of the motor didn't match what I was looking at, I had to step back and scratch my head for a minute. Moving to the cast numbers on the block and doing some research, I determined that the engine has been replaced once, so my supposed 188HP Mercruiser was actually a Ford 351W block (not a chrysler), I got excited. Not only was the motor in good shape internally, but it is one of the better blocks that Ford produced.

Moving forward now that I have the specs right for what I am working with, I busted the motor all the way down to go ahead and replace all of the main and rod bearings and do a close inspection of the cam and timing. Everything is peachy.

So, at this point, I have the motor completely torn down, and awaiting delivery of my replacement parts...seals, bearings, oil pump, gaskets, etc etc. The Hull is gutted and while waiting for my parts delivery, I am laying out some interior designs of how I want the inside of the boat to look.

I am NOT putting one ounce of wood back into the boat. Going all fiberglass with core and honeycomb internals to keep the weight down to a minimum. I removed about 700 pounds of wood from the boat and another 150 or so pounds of useless things such as the stove, sink, old navigation equipment, etc. So dumping almost 1000 pounds has been nice, and I am excited to see what the total weight drop is in the end upon completion.
I've lost some of my motivation to keep busting my butt working on the boat due to other things going on, but I want to dive back in, so I figured I would share my progress and hope that some of you great folks can offer some motivating words.

Also, free rides on the water to those whom may want to help out on the project. I'm always looking to meet and hang out with hands on boaters and share ideas. Never know, good knowledge goes a long way and I am always willing to share information and how-to's.

Thanks for reading!!!!

Link to my Album of pics: 1974 Winner Slideshow

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Utahboatnut

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

So are you keeping the sweet factory paint job that is on her?
 

tdp05

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

So are you keeping the sweet factory paint job that is on her?

Getting rid of the white color all together. Bottom is going to be anti-foul Black. Upper Hull is going to be sprayed a sea blue and the upper deck areas will be a lighter sky blue. The hull is going to be custom airbrushed with more definition to the shark and fade back into a design that I have been thinking about for months. More of a mural for the local saltwater species we have in and around the lower Chesapeake Bay and Atlantic Offshore.

I'm personally not a fan of an all white boat, kindof on the same lines as not putting anything wood back on it.

Cheers!
 

Mark42

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

Its going to be hard to rebuild without using wood, but if you want to use non-wood components that are light weight, I can suggest using foam for non load bearing walls and structures. Use the pink insulation foam and glue on Formica laminate for a firm surface. But you will need to use something other than contact adhesive because it will melt foam. Try using Gorilla glue, but you will have to experiment. There is also foam panel adhesive, its latex based. I tried it and feel its crap. Latex caulk would work better!

Looking forward to seeing how you integrate light weight structures in the boat. BTW, I think things like a head and stove come in handy!

Mark
 

WizeOne

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

Nice project tdp05. That thing ought to be quite the hotrod with that 351w and all the weight stripped out of it.

btw, tried to look at your myspace album but it the link required you to sign in.
 

Mark42

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

.....

btw, tried to look at your myspace album but it the link required you to sign in.

Yeah, dump myspace as a photo hosting site. Pretty much every employeer block it, and most of us big kids don't use it or want to open accounts in that adware and tracking infested website.

Look at photobucket.com
 

tdp05

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

Bulkheads are going to be made of density core with 4 layers of glass on each side. Molding in a stainless/aluminum door I was lucky enough to score from a buddy of mine whom reapairs 11 and 13 meter vessels the military uses for port security. For the angles on the walls and such I am using honeycomb and molding it to my liking depending on what component I am working on at the time. I am keeping the head, making it bigger in fact and adding a sink. For cooking, I designed a rock-away twin burner system with a grill on the backside that rocks up from the outside port deck area that used to be a seat. This eliminates the possibilities of a "booming" situation and I prefer to keep the gases out of the cabin area.

I've been doing fiberglass molds and such for about 15 years, so I am hoping my knowledge follows my experience and everything works out as I have it planned.

The engine has a .040 bore on it with a .030 on the rod bearings and an .010 on the main bearings on the crankshaft. I believe it will produce somewhere in the 233-255HP range as is. I don't plan on hopping it up on steroids or anything as I would prefer to keep it running smooth and not waste fuel.

I have been gathering components as I come across them or they catch my eye, so I will post up as I do each area and try to put together some how-to's.

As far as pic hostings go, I tried to log into photobucket today several times and was unable to get there, I'll try again and add the pics to photobucket.
 

tdp05

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Re: Winner Convertible Redesign/Rebuild Project

Yeah, dump myspace as a photo hosting site. Pretty much every employeer block it, and most of us big kids don't use it or want to open accounts in that adware and tracking infested website.

Look at photobucket.com

Photobucket is not loading for me, so I added them to Flickr.com I changed the link above, but here it is again.

1974 Winner Slideshow

Cheers!
 
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