first post, evinrude question!

[bill9000]

Hello all, my first post here...

I just bought a boat with an Evinrude 4.5 motor, (model# E5RCS) that supposedly would run great, but is missing the throttle handle. (I've put some pics here)

I took it to a local boat shop and they tried selling me a brand new Mercury... saying that there was no way I'd ever find parts for this... I kind of find that difficult to believe...

does anyone here have any idea of where I might find parts for this, or maybe even a non-running one I could get parts off of? or was the shop right and this motor isnt really worth messing with?

thanks in advance for any help!

 

[bankerjohn]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

E5RCS - 1980 4.5hp Evinrude

You may be able to find the parts to complete the tiller handle, but it will be a LOT cheaper to find either a "parts" motor, or the complete tiller arm itself. eBay is a good place to start looking ... I think you could use the arm off a 1981 - 1983 motor as well.

As far as "is it worth fixing?" ... I would see if it cranks and runs reasonably well before spending the $$$ on the tiller arm!

 

[jbjennings]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

Well,
You certainly can find parts for it. Try calling laingsoutboards.com or twincityoutboards (tcoutboards.com). You might even find one on ebay for a cheap price. There's other places as well. THe key is finding someone that will sell it to you for a reasonable price.
Good luck,
JBJ

 

[Rick.]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

http://shop2.evinrude.com/ext/index.aspx?s1=0a26b4ffcb8c5ba95b401acffb932c2f
Here is a link you can compare parts numbers for different years and models and find out what might fit your motor. But, before you go too far I would recommend you check the compression on yours just to make sure it's a keeper. I would just give the whole thing a good once over to see if there are other parts missing as well. Ebay is a good place to start looking but it would not hurt to try and find a used motor the same year and you'll have lots of parts that way. I have had success just going to dealers and asking if I can have a look through their bone yard for parts. Best of luck. Rick.

 

[River Boy]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

I just went through that with an 80 7.5 which is basiclly the same motor. Yes you can buy the whole 'twist grip kit' for around 80 bucks from your Evinrude/OMC Dealer. In fact, thats the only way you can get the twist grip throttle parts is to buy the whole kit. Ask them for some kind of assembly grease that won't eat up plastic if you get that far. The twist grip probablly went bad because the throttle cable 'buttons' ran out of grease and broke. That's what was wrong with mine anyway. Like the others said, make sure the motor is worth it before investing more money. Good pics.

 

[bill9000]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

I just went through that with an 80 7.5 which is basiclly the same motor. Yes you can buy the whole 'twist grip kit' for around 80 bucks from your Evinrude/OMC Dealer. In fact, thats the only way you can get the twist grip throttle parts is to buy the whole kit. Ask them for some kind of assembly grease that won't eat up plastic if you get that far. The twist grip probablly went bad because the throttle cable 'buttons' ran out of grease and broke. That's what was wrong with mine anyway. Like the others said, make sure the motor is worth it before investing more money. Good pics.

thanks, this sounds about probably exactly the case with this motor. -it was mentioned above to perhaps try to start the motor and see if it runs decent before buying the twist grip, but, doesnt that handle need to be in some sort of "start" position in order for the motor to be able to start anyway?

I just found at a local shop a Briggs & Stratton motor (this one: http://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratt...e=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1242004741&sr=8-1 ) - for a really good price, brand new, warranty and all... which is really attracting me, because even if I were to get this Evinrude running, who knows how dependable it might be right? for all I know it could have been sitting for 10 years and needing a lot of work and $$$?

I have read mixed feelings about the Briggs & Stratton, but for the price, a 5hp 4-stroke just for getting my small aluminum boat around local small lakes, I'm thinking it might be the way to go for dependability reasons, as to not strand myself and my son out on the middle of the lake, LOL???? any thoughts????
thanks so much for the help everyone also!

 

[samo_ott]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

The B&S will be air cooled and noisy. But you can run it out of water if you want. Evinrude has been around for 100 years... their engine's last... I use a 1950 Evinrude 7.5hp almost daily (that I got for US$40) and also a '66 18hp almost daily also (C$90). They will run forever if kept up. Parts are relatively easy to find for my 50's and 60's engines... The 80's should be a breeze! I'd do as stated above though and check the compression (don't need to run it for that). But you can run it without the tiller. You just have to take the cover off and move the throttle manually. Or maybe use vice grips to slide the cable in and out on the throttle handle... I'd definitely try that first. You need to know the condition of the engine before working on it...

 

[River Boy]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

Looks like you ought to be able to start it if you were careful, maybe have someone help you to be careful not to over rev the motor. Are you familar with boat motors? For sure know which way to push or pull the cable to shut it down. Something that is missing in the pics is the stop (kill) button that is in the end of the throttle twist grip. That will not come with the throttle kit. If you do start it you're going to need a plan ahead of time to shut it down.
A Briggs would be like having a lawnmower on the back of your boat. I'd rather have a Mercury than that.

QUOTE: but, doesnt that handle need to be in some sort of "start" position in order for the motor to be able to start anyway? END QUOTE

No. Nothing magical about the start position. Thats just a position on the twist grip of ALL boat motors. It's hardy relevant of the position where you generally start your engine anyway. Generally about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle with choke from dead stop (0% throttle) to start a cold engine.

 

[bill9000]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

ok, this is very useful info, thank you... I will see if I can get this thing running before I make any decisions...

I see people saying the Briggs isn't good on some forums and all, but I can't figure out why, I know they make a good motor... they been around for almost 100 years... I found this youtube video on one, and they seem like it would work good on my little boat? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZ_Rd97ZPU&feature=related

Looks like you ought to be able to start it if you were careful, maybe have someone help you to be careful not to over rev the motor. Are you familar with boat motors? For sure know which way to push or pull the cable to shut it down. Something that is missing in the pics is the stop (kill) button that is in the end of the throttle twist grip. That will not come with the throttle kit. If you do start it you're going to need a plan ahead of time to shut it down.
A Briggs would be like having a lawnmower on the back of your boat. I'd rather have a Mercury than that.

QUOTE: but, doesnt that handle need to be in some sort of "start" position in order for the motor to be able to start anyway? END QUOTE

No. Nothing magical about the start position. Thats just a position on the twist grip of ALL boat motors. It's hardy relevant of the position where you generally start your engine anyway. Generally about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle with choke from dead stop (0% throttle) to start a cold engine.

 

[River Boy]

Re: first post, evinrude question!

I shouldn't dis on Briggs boat motors. I do know they're loud on the water. Other than that I don't know much. Briggs has been making small motors for years and make a good product and they're American made. I've got enough of them here at the place on tillers and garden tractors and lawnmowers. IF they could figure out a way to quiet their boatmotor down they'd probablly sell more of em'.