Milkshake In My 5.0 And I Got It Out ***Update***

[mtspro6]

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Re: Milkshake In My 5.0 And Cant Get It Out.

Remove engine, leaving cooling system together, get a pipe and connect water hoses from thermostat neck to manifolds together. remove hose from ps cooler and take a regular gun-style garden hose and stick it into water intake hose with a hose clamp. remove valve covers and oil pan. turn water on. find leak in block or cylinder head. replace part. You won't be getting water into crankcase from exhaust manifolds if the engine is running. only when its off. so you can rule out manifolds. not exactly aviation tough. more like marine rocket science

 

[bruceb58]

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Re: Milkshake In My 5.0 And Cant Get It Out.

Remove engine, leaving cooling system together, get a pipe and connect water hoses from thermostat neck to manifolds together. remove hose from ps cooler and take a regular gun-style garden hose and stick it into water intake hose with a hose clamp. remove valve covers and oil pan. turn water on. find leak in block or cylinder head. replace part. You won't be getting water into crankcase from exhaust manifolds if the engine is running. only when its off. so you can rule out manifolds. not exactly aviation tough. more like marine rocket science

I would suggest using air and limiting it to 15 PSI. You will be able to hear the air leak and determine where the leak is.

 

[mtspro6]

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Air, water- whatever. I personally use water. Much easier to see and much easier to show customers. I understand that water pressure can be very high so just a trickle is all thats needed.

 

[Alpheus]

Re: Milkshake In My 5.0 And I Got It Out ***Update***

Well I got the motor on the stand today.

 

[Alpheus]

Re: Milkshake In My 5.0 And I Got It Out ***Update***

As soon as I got it bolted on the engine stand and started looking around I found this:

Well this explains how the water got into the oil. I haven't pressure tested it or started tearing it down but I'm pretty sure that if its cracked this bad on the outside,its not looking to pretty on the inside. Looks like the previous owner went a little nuts with the JB Weld. I pulled the drain plug and got about 5 gallons of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pOa_J63tWc
Its thick and rich and chocolaty too. Any way I will be on the phone with Rapidos in the morning and getting a new 5.7 on the way...

 

[Don S]

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You can bet the manifolds and risers are close to the same condition. Don't even think about reusing old manifolds and risers with a new block.

Before you buy a remaned engine and new manifolds. Weigh some options.
Here's one.
http://www.dougrussell.com/Products...ve Engine Only&SubCatID=4&Brand=70&Category=6

and another

http://www.marinepowerservice.com/B...337/parent_cat1/450392/parent_cat2/450396.cfm

 

[steddy]

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Who would have thought JB Weld wouldn't fix a cracked engine block?

I guess its uses are limited to re-joining a split piston rod and splicing a broken crank back together.

 

[bruceb58]

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II got the boat real cheap because the previous owner sais that it has a blown head gasket.

Liar Liar pants on fire! Jeez...blown head gasket my ***

 

[Alpheus]

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http://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/1398815863.html

You can see in the add, that's what the guy said. I only paid 600 bucks for it. I will put a new engine in it and run it. I like this boat and shes in real good shape...

 

[JustJason]

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Interesting.....

It sure does get to freezing in Virginia.

 

[Rippenlips]

Re: Milkshake In My 5.0 And I Got It Out ***Update***

Nylon ratchet strap to hold motor and accessories?

Jon T

 

[Alpheus]

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Well something happened. It was supposedly brought up from Texas in June but you know how that goes. I should have known when He said "A little old lady owned this boat only used it to go to church and back,always garage kept and never seen winter." I started tearing down the engine. Now I have rebuilt many small block Chevys but this is the first time messing with a marine engine. All I can say is WHY IN THE HECK DIDN'T SOMEONE WARN ME ABOUT HOW HEAVY THE EXHAUST MANIFOLDS ARE!!! I took the last bolt off the exhaust manifold and the damn thing was just way to heavy to hold up with one hand and she came down real hard right on my foot. After allot of swearing I took the intake off and the valve covers and snapped a couple of pics. As you can see there was no way this thing was running a couple of months ago and there was definitely water getting into where it shouldn't have been going. But on the plus side the valve cover gaskets held up well...

 

[JustJason]

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Well something happened. It was supposedly brought up from Texas in June

I'm sure it was brought up from Texas in June. June of 1994, in which time the block froze solid. Thats more than 1 seasons worth of rust you have sitting in there.
Kind of interesting the intake ports are rusted. Is the intake manifold cracked? Either way, I wouldn't use the old one on a new engine.

any evidence the boat was half underwater?

It is a bayliner, so now the the motors out your probably going to want to drill into the transom about an inch deep with a small drill bit and see if there's a surprise in your box of cracker jacks.

 

[Don S]

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And the seller is laughing his azz off with $600 for a boat he couldn't give away.
For anyone else looking for a cheap boat. Listen to the seller, they always tell you the truth. "It needs a head gasket and ran fine 2 weeks ago" Yea, right.
IF you want a cheap boat , run it, check the oil before and after. Do a compression check, remove the oil cap on the valve cover and look.
Then, the seller will probably give you $100 just to haul off the POS.

One more time, I am not disappointed when someone says they have a blown head gasket that causes milky oil to blow out the carb.
Faulty exhaust manifolds indeed

 

[Alpheus]

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I am not a big fan of Bayliners. I know of the problems they had in the 80's and early 90's. But I have to be honest,this boat is solid. The floors,motor mounts,transom. I cant find a weak spot in it. That is one thing I looked at pretty thorough when I went to look at the boat. I knew about the engine but I poked around everything with a screwdriver in the engine bay looking for soft spot and lifted all of the interior and poked in all the usual places one would expect to see rot,but I couldn't find any. I then moved on the the outdrive and drained some of the oil and it was nice and clean. I checked all of the lights,horn,bilge pump and blower and everything works. The trailer just had new lights installed and 3 new tires. Its an aluminum trailer with break away brakes. I will put a new engine in her and I should make a couple of bucks on her, We'll see. This is the second Bayliner I have owned this year and the other one was pretty soft in all the wrong places but I sold it and still made money on it. Buying and fixing boats is just a hobby of mine. I keep my main boat at the marina its a Sea Ray Sundancer 270. I love that boat and shes as solid as a rock...

Heres a pic of the Bayliner I bought a couple of weeks ago for 100 bucks. She the same year and model as the one Im fixing now except shes a Capri 1770 and my current one is a 2050. The engine was just rebuilt (had receipts) with less than 20 hours on her but hadn't been ran for 2 years. I took her home gave her a quick tune up and cleaned the hull and the interior and put her in the water and she ran great. I put her on Craigslist and sold it within 5 hours for 1300 bucks. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but its still fun either way...

 

[joncrisler]

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While you have the engine out, clean up the bilge area. I came across an abandoned boat on the Potomac about 15 years ago that sank, but there was enough floatation stuff in the hull that it just settled in the water. We dragged it to the beach, drained some of the water out, and found the bilge pump had been ripped out of the engine compartment and was laying in the bottom of the cockpit. Odd we thought, until we examined the pump impeller and found that it injested an acorn, which jammed the pump. The person in the boat (while it was sinking) probably ripped out the pump in frustration. Imagin, sunk by an acorn.

 

[Grant Brown]

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Nylon ratchet strap to hold motor and accessories?

Jon T

That's the new heavy duty ratchet strap doncha know?

Grant

 

[joncrisler]

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The good thing is that a 350 will bolt right into that boat, and those engines are very affordable. However, dont count on getting a core charge back from THAT block. Clean up the pullys, alt, power steering etc. figure $2500 for a marine base 350 of 325 hp, but you might need to swap the carb. A used intake should be cheap, not sure if your current igition would work due to the advance curve.

 

[a70eliminator]

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I can see that big internal crack in the valley, the JB weld did nothing but contain water to the block.

 

[bamafutbal]

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