1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

jasoninsane123

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I got a 89 merc blackmax v150 all cylinders read 110psi but one reads 80 psi will the motor run ok with one running 80 psi
 

j_martin

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

I got a 89 merc blackmax v150 all cylinders read 110psi but one reads 80 psi will the motor run ok with one running 80 psi

Sure, till that hole finishes blowing up. Then if it doesn't tangle up too bad, you might get about 75% on the remaining 5.
 

j_martin

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

Something is definitely wrong with that cylinder. It could be just stuck rings, or it could be worse, like a piston burning from leaning out, or a broken ring.

If you look in the bore, and the piston looks like the others do, not obviously burned and not too clean, and there's no piston metal on the cylinder wall and it's not scored too bad, then it might be worth spraying some SeaFoam into that cylinder to free the stuck ring.

If the piston is squeaky clean, you probably have water intrusion from a bad head gasket.

Even if it's fairly serious, you might get by with a piston and a couple of bearings. If you run it till it blows up, you can plan on bunches of money to get it right.

hope it helps
John
 

jasoninsane123

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

im pretty sure its the ring just stuck the motor has been running fine, we have had the boat for years and this is the 1st time we did a comperssion test i will take a look in the hole to see if i can see anything
 

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

Chances of a stuck ring are really, really slim ta none. Ya got a clyinder/piston/rings going away. You need to pull tha head and divider plate ta see what's going on in that hole. If you keep runnin' it its gonna get worse eventually (maybe 10 minutes, maybe 10 years) and may do more damage than ya really wanna see. JMO........
 

jasoninsane123

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

We did everything and still low comperssion how much would it cost to fix it
 

Dukedog

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Ta do it RIGHT best estimate between 2 and 3 grand at a good place. Don't know pricing in your "neck a tha woods". Most dealers just do re-mans now-days anyway. Tha problem with that is that most of tha time they don't research tha cause. They just bolt all your accessories on a rebuilt long block and go with it.............
 

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Yeah, ya probably could. Might bore tha one hole and hone tha others a little. Need ta have tha other holes checked by tha machine shop thats going ta do tha job. Hard ta say what all would need ta be replaced until ya get it opened up and check everything. Rings and gaskets for sure. Pistons and bearings, a heavy maybe. Heads and deck straightened for sure. Really you would be lookin' at five more pistons ta do it completly. I'm sure you could find someone that would just replace tha one piston and ring pretty cheap (a make it run kinda fix) but it might run a while and it might NOT. Just do some research on whoever however ya get ta fix it.............
 

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Re: 1989 Merc Blackmax comperssion low

Like was mentioned before, you really need to pull that head and have a look. You can bore up to three holes without boring them all but if you have to bore one on stbd and one on port the cost will be the same to just bore them all.

If you need boring you need to find a shop that is equipped to bore and hone a blind hole and knows marine engines. Your local automotive machine shops rarely have the proper equipment but may tell you they can do it. Run away from these offers.

Maximum bore is .020 without re-cutting the reliefs at the bottom of the hole. If you need to go .030 over make sure to mention the reliefs.

If you don't have a marine machine shop nearby don't forget to figure in the cost of shipping the block, (both ways). Go over to www.screamandfly.com. Post your need for block work and there will be several highly qualified shops offering up their services. They are all the best at what they do and you won't have to worry about the work being done right.

A full set of gaskets does not include head gaskets. 150.00 is around the norm for what you'll need. The engine is 20 years old you need to take advantage of the opportunity to change all the bearings except possibly the lower main. You also need to replace all the rod bolts when you change the rod bearings. You should also change the reeds, rebuild the carbs and upsize the main jets by .002 for todays fuels.

You'll have a minimum of a month of evening work to complete the job and as much time waiting for parts you'll find you need along the way.

If you add it all up, you'll be in it around 2,000.00 plus the labor that you can do yourself.

A remanufactured (not refurbished) powerhead at around 3000.00 is the easier way to get your engine back up and running. Like was said before, you'll never know root cause unless you tear the old one down. You could very well end up bolting back on the cause of the problem and experience the same thing. I'm the second one to tell you this so believe it.

Your best and most economical option is to take the money you'd be investing in fixing this 20 year old motor and make a down payment on a new 150 Pro Max or find a good used replacement and part this one out on eBay.. If you find this to make sense then upgrade your U.S. Boats towing insurance, run this motor until it finally dies and then replace it.

On the other hand, if you can't put together the cash all at once for a replacement and saving just never seems to work out then go ahead and rebuild it. Take all winter and it can be like spreading the payments out over time. Just don't get anxious and neglect things you need to pay attention to.
 
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