1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

scaryt5

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I just got a boat for free and plan on restoring it, pulled the floor and seats.Tried to fire up the motor and would not start.It is electric start tried to get that running, but power and ground wires are very corroded, so we tried pull it..gass gettin to filter, checked and replaced filter..spark at plugs, lots of compression..There are wires running to the side of the motor, not sure what this device is?? is it some sort of electric fuel pump and vacuum?? does it need power to start manually??There is a bulb under the carb that the choke pushes on, is this a primer bulb, if so does not feel like gas is in this bulb...any ideas on where to go next, this is first outboard i have ever worked on, so any help would be appreciated.
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

The wired device on the port side is a kill switch if the engine over revs, the bulb under the carb is likely the choke activator. It shouldn't be full of gas. Is the choke flap closed when you're trying to start it? You should be able to close it manually.
Your first sentence probably tells the story. It was free so not likely maintained properly. The carb likely could use a cleaning at a minimum. Get a manual and start reading. It will make your first boating experience a lot more enjoyable.
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

ok, so I finally got a manual, cleaned the carb, new plugs.Got fuel and spark..adjusted the timing with throttle as explained in manual..still no start, pull plugs and plugs don't smell like fuel, is there somewhere else the flow of fuel would be obstructed to the cylinders..also checked compression..cylinder1-73psi, 2-78psi..anymore info would be appreciated, thank you
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

Are those compression readings by pull-starting? If so, they're probably ok. If by electric start, they seem low. Turning the motor over with the starter should give 100+ readings. Have you tried spraying premixed fuel directly into the carb throat? Try that and see if she fires. If she fires, then dies, there is a fule delivery problem. Did you install a new carb kit when you had it apart to clean it?
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

compression readings are from pulling, and yes a new carb kit, fuel is goin through the carb, it's in the throat, is there any way the inlet ports would be plugged??or maybe gummed up?
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

oh and I also checked the reed valves, none were damaged and not stuck closed
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

I just got a boat for free and plan on restoring it, pulled the floor and seats.Tried to fire up the motor and would not start.It is electric start tried to get that running, but power and ground wires are very corroded, so we tried pull it..gass gettin to filter, checked and replaced filter..spark at plugs, lots of compression..There are wires running to the side of the motor, not sure what this device is?? is it some sort of electric fuel pump and vacuum?? does it need power to start manually??There is a bulb under the carb that the choke pushes on, is this a primer bulb, if so does not feel like gas is in this bulb...any ideas on where to go next, this is first outboard i have ever worked on, so any help would be appreciated.

The "bulb" under the carb is probably your electric choke. should be wired to a choke switch. Some carbs that era had a fuel filter in a glass bowl with a stone filter in them. You might know that now that you have a book.

Also The engine does not need power to run. Only the choke solenoid and electric shift if you have it. DO NOT POWER THE COILS.

The two black wires kill the ignition if grounded or connected together. They connect on the coil side of each of the points, and short together in the off position at the ignition switch.

So eliminate them as a problem by disconnecting them on the engine. One is hooked to the center post of the cut out switch, take it off and wrap it so it doesn't ground. (I slipped a piece of hose over mine.) The other has a "knife connection", it is routed under the starter. Slip the covering sleeve off, disconnect and isolate/insulate it too. (mind you will have no kill switch.)

Make sure the vacuum line to the cut out switch is good. (you don't need any vacuum leaks.) It connects to the intake manifold so that if the engine overruns (lost prop etc.) causing high vacuum making the switch connect the center post to the switch housing internally and grounding the one black wire through the the white wire that should be connected to the fourth terminal on the starter solenoid.

The second white wire connected at the cut out switch housing goes to a safety switch under the flywheel that is open at idle and closed at high throttle by a cam on the stator plate. This switch stops the starter from cranking if the throttle is too far opened. (preventing overrun also.)
The cam will stop it from shifting at high throttle and limits throttle in neutral and reverse.

There might be a brown wire that connects to a temperature sensor in the head that makes ground when hot. It connects to a dash mounted light that gets power from the ignition switch. I don't know what the terminal is labeled but it's the only one that gets power in the run position.

You do not need any wires to start this motor if you have the rope starter installed. But the electric start is so much easier.

If you still can't start it... you either have low compression, bad spark, clogged carburetor or bad butterfly valves. (Mine had low compression due to the wrong spark plugs with too much reach, breaking on the piston top, scoring the cylinder and damaging the piston.) I didn't do it.

These engines are so basic, they want to run. It's getting power out of them that can be tricky.
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

compression readings are from pulling, and yes a new carb kit, fuel is goin through the carb, it's in the throat, is there any way the inlet ports would be plugged??or maybe gummed up?

You say you put a new carb kit in... Did you soak it good and blow it out with compressed air?
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

yes i soaked the carb good, soaked in carb clener for 3 days everday putting new cleaner in. and blew out..mybe the fuel pump is not keeping enough pressure, i'll have to find a kit for it, is there a check valve in the fuel pump???
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

maybe the float is not set properly either, will have to fiddle some more i geuss
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

finally just dumped a whole bunch of fuel into the carb..still no fuel on plugs..started to look for a leak and noticed fuel coming out of the water inlet...goin to look at another motor tommorrow
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

finally just dumped a whole bunch of fuel into the carb..still no fuel on plugs..started to look for a leak and noticed fuel coming out of the water inlet...goin to look at another motor tommorrow

Your compression sounds marginal and may be some of your problem. The water inlet is a screen in the lower opening of gear case (rod shaped curve.) The long thin plate on the side, the lower opening and the upper hole in back are all exhaust. (all open to exhaust gasses and water.) Seeing fuel there is just a flooding condition.
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

picked up a 64 johnson, that runs, for 80 bucks, can't go wrong with that, even have a parts motor too, lol
 

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Re: 1961 Evinrude LarkIII 40hp

is there anyway too hook up a push buttun ignition, and a flip kill instead of a key using the existing wiring??
 
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