Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

achris

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Quite a few people here have been rebuilding engines lately, and I thought having spent a lot of money on a rebuild they might like something to help protest their investment........ One of the hazards we can't really avoid completely is loss of water from the seawater pump in the drive, either by failure of the impeller, or picking up weed or a plastic bag. By the time the engine gets hot enough to notice, a lot of damage has already been done. One way to pick up that loss of water quickly is with a water pressure alarm.

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Here?s how I would build a pressure alarm and gauge adaptor for a sterndrive?

I would start by making a manifold for the sensors.

Using a length of copper or stainless tube of the same diameter as the water hose between the transom plate and the thermostat housing (voltage regulator on a ?470?), make 3 ports, one each for the gauge, low pressure sensor and high pressure sensor.

For the gauge I would use a water pressure gauge (to match your current instrument cluster) from Merc, and I would install that first and get a look at the range of pressures you have. You?ll have the lowest pressure at idle when the engine is at normal operating temperature. Use that pressure as the lowest pressure. It?s going to be in the order of 1-5 psi. The highest pressure is going to be around 15-20 psi.

Once you have an accurate idea of the pressures that are ?normal? for your engine, order the sensors. I?ve done some research on the net and found these sensors. (but there are plenty of others around).

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http://www.pryde.com.au/02_1.htm#switches Scroll down and look at MPL-500 series. They can be ordered to any pressure from 0.004psi to 20psi. They can also be configured for N/O or N/C electrical contacts. For the low pressure sensor you need Normally Closed (N/C), and for the high pressure you need Normally Open (N/O). What that will mean is that if the pressure is too low, the low sensor will be closed and the high sensor will be open, and if the pressure is too high, then the high sensor will close and the low pressure will be open. While the pressure is normal both switches will be open. The reason for the high pressure alarm is that as the exhaust elbow becomes older and clogs up the water pressure increases. That alarm will tell you when the elbow is becoming clogged and needs to be cleaned or replaced.

And this is the circuit for the alarm? You can use either the alarm module that Merc supply on there engines (I would recommend that one as it?s loud enough to hear above engine noise), part # -816492A6. If your engine already has an alarm system, it?s really easy. Just run the wires from the pressure sensors to the existing alarm harness, tie in anywhere at the low drive oil, low oil pressure or high engine temperature switches.

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Cheers,

Chris..........
 

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Black as

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

That sounds great I WANT ONE :D
 

JustJason

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

The motorola PCM/555 controller has provisions for a water PSI switch and alarm, but no old fashion pressure gauge.
I'm old fashion though... i prefer sendors over switches and real time vs an electronic buzzer.
 

achris

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

The motorola PCM/555 controller has provisions for a water PSI switch and alarm, but no old fashion pressure gauge.
I'm old fashion though... i prefer sendors over switches and real time vs an electronic buzzer.

Jason,

This is old-fashion. It's for non-MPI engines. No using PCM thingy (my new MPI has the pressure alarm as part of the control system). And it is real time. Gauges are only good if you're looking at them when the problem occurs. Most people driving boats don't look at the gauges that often. With the pressure switches and the buzzer the alarm is instant! Lose pressure and the alarm will sound in microseconds. Then you look at the gauges to find out which alarm has been tripped.

Chris.........
 

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

Your design looks good on paper but how are you going to filter out the seawater so that things don't get clogged up?
 

badkins50

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

This is great information. Thanks achris. I'm sure I'll have some questions for you when I'm putting mine together.
 

achris

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

Your design looks good on paper but how are you going to filter out the seawater so that things don't get clogged up?

Because the sensors are 'dead-headed' it doesn't matter if some dirt gets in there. They sense pressure, not flow... And if the ports in the manifold are set at the top, then the likelihood of any dirt getting there is very remote, not that it would matter.

Chris.....
 

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

This looks like a great design Achris. Do you or anyone who has install this have any pictures of the manifold to install the switch(s) and where it was installed at?
 

achris

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

This looks like a great design Achris. Do you or anyone who has install this have any pictures of the manifold to install the switch(s) and where it was installed at?

I am in the process of putting one together. When I'm done, I'll post photos.

Chris....
 

wakeboardbob

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

Why not just use the high pressure sensor and dont worry about the low pressure. At idle/low speed there is way less chance of doing major damage if you lose water. I have had this happen twice in 1000 hours. Once was for an accidental water shutoff during motor flushing and the other was an old thermostat that stuck. Neither caused any damage other than during the flushing the impeller fins blued upon removal and inspection. Under way is way more critical because of the volumes of heat that need to be removed and fast. I would think you would need to have a way to filter out the alarm at low speed/pressure though. You may be able to even use the existing alarm and just tie into it?
 

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

Looks like a pretty sweet mod there.
 

achris

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Re: Water pressure alarm for stern drive engines.

Why not just use the high pressure sensor and dont worry about the low pressure.

Because the original concept was an alarm to indicate when water to the impeller had been impeded. The high pressure alarm was an after-thought as a indicator for the possibility of blocked up manifolds/elbows.

wakeboardbob said:
At idle/low speed there is way less chance of doing major damage if you lose water.

Takes less than 30 seconds, even at idle, to start the burning process on an impeller.

wakeboardbob said:
I have had this happen twice in 1000 hours. Once was for an accidental water shutoff during motor flushing and the other was an old thermostat that stuck. Neither caused any damage other than during the flushing the impeller fins blued upon removal and inspection.

Exactly my point.

wakeboardbob said:
Under way is way more critical because of the volumes of heat that need to be removed and fast. I would think you would need to have a way to filter out the alarm at low speed/pressure though. You may be able to even use the existing alarm and just tie into it?

That's what I said in the original post...

Thanks for your input...

Chris.....
 
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