fish finder speed sensor

Philip_G

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anyone have experience with these?
Initially I wanted a model with gps, but since trolling speed is more important to me maybe that's the way to go, are they fairly accurate?
 

dingbat

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Re: fish finder speed sensor

The DF gives you speed over water and the GPS give you speed over the land.

Not much of a difference unless you fish places that have current. Nothing like going 3 kts. while anchored. ;)

FWIW: I have both on my boat. I used the GPS for speed and use the DF signal to compensate my speed for the tide.
 

fishrdan

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At low speed paddle wheel speedometers are accurate, but not at high speed. As for GPS, it does not compensate for current or tight turns so GPS won't be accurate for trolling. Go up river in a 2MPH current with GPS showing 2MPG and the lures are dragging at 4MPH, go down river in a 2MPH current with the GPS showing 2MPH and the lures are sitting still. Throw in a couple S turns...

I'm not sure paddle wheel speedometers are 100% accurate at low speeds, but they will give you a quicker and better reference point than GPS, for trolling at least.
 

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Re: fish finder speed sensor

anyone have experience with these?
Initially I wanted a model with gps, but since trolling speed is more important to me maybe that's the way to go, are they fairly accurate?

Dan did a very good job describing the difference between GPS and paddle wheel speed indicators. I run both and concur on the accuracy statements.

You may still want a gps unit, though. Depending on the type of trolling and how big of water, having precise tracks of each pass and capability of doing a trolling grid, may be of good value for you.
 

zibzer

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Re: fish finder speed sensor

I use GPS and speed sensor on my humminbird. I find the humminbird sensor decent but occasionally off by more than 1/2 mph. I contribute this to waves or current.
 

dingbat

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Go up river in a 2MPH current with GPS showing 2MPG and the lures are dragging at 4MPH, go down river in a 2MPH current with the GPS showing 2MPH and the lures are sitting still. Throw in a couple S turns...
Problem with that theory is that fish typically don't drift in the current. They find an ambush point and hunker down facing into the current and thus the need to know speed over a fixed position.

Drifting down a river or inlet in a 2 kt. current will present the baits to the fish at 2 kts. Your paddle wheel says zero. Likewise, moving up stream at 2 kts against a 2 kt current. Your paddle wheel says 4 kts. The baits will still pass the fish at 2 kts.

For the most part we troll static baits so speed is not an issue other than the day to day preference of the fish. If I am using speed sensitive baits for whatever reason, the best way to pace them is to watch the tip of a rod and the angle of the line coming off the rod.

Currents vary by depth and you can not assume that the surface water (paddle wheel reading)is moving at the same speed as the waters at the depth of the bait. In this case, the only way to make sure your trolling at the correct speed is by observation.
 

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Re: fish finder speed sensor

Problem with that theory is that fish typically don't drift in the current. They find an ambush point and hunker down facing into the current and thus the need to know speed over a fixed position.

Drifting down a river or inlet in a 2 kt. current will present the baits to the fish at 2 kts. Your paddle wheel says zero. Likewise, moving up stream at 2 kts against a 2 kt current. Your paddle wheel says 4 kts. The baits will still pass the fish at 2 kts.

For the most part we troll static baits so speed is not an issue other than the day to day preference of the fish. If I am using speed sensitive baits for whatever reason, the best way to pace them is to watch the tip of a rod and the angle of the line coming off the rod.

Currents vary by depth and you can not assume that the surface water (paddle wheel reading)is moving at the same speed as the waters at the depth of the bait. In this case, the only way to make sure your trolling at the correct speed is by observation.


Sounds like most of your trolling is to cover the area close to the bottom. Maybe, that is what the poster is referring to. Don't know. Around here, trolling is usually done for suspended fish, downriggers and side planners, for trout, salmon, walleye, etc, but most of that is in deep lakes, not rivers. When someone mentions trolling, this is what I assume, for the most part.

Myself, I troll sometimes, but not with the equipment above and not allot. Most of the time, it is on the bottom (mostly irregular), or to stay just above the weeds. Speed up or slow down to just make or just miss contact. I'll use both speeds for referance, and possible compare to a different bait.

Agree on the rod bend and angle, which comes in time with consistantly using same rod, line, line out, and lures.
 

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Sounds like most of your trolling is to cover the area close to the bottom.

All of my trolling is in tidal water so I have tidal flows to contend with. Everything is pretty much in the top 15-20% of the water column.

I run 14 rods, with 28 baits (2 lures per rod) during the height of the season. Five lines off each planer boards (3-10'), two rods deep (35 -40?) off the transom and two lines run shot gun, back 250-325?, which run right below the surface.
 

Philip_G

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Re: fish finder speed sensor

no current to contend with, and I'm more interested in the lure action, sounds like a speed sensor is the way to go, thanks guys
 

fishrdan

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Problem with that theory is that fish typically don't drift in the current. They find an ambush point and hunker down facing into the current and thus the need to know speed over a fixed position.

Different styles of fishing... I want my lures running as a specific speed, so the action is right and they are running at the correct depth. I want to know how fast my boat is going through the water, not how fast I'm passing structure.
 

dingbat

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Different styles of fishing... I want my lures running as a specific speed, so the action is right and they are running at the correct depth. I want to know how fast my boat is going through the water, not how fast I'm passing structure.

No, not different styles of fishing. Differing methodologies on the presentation.
 
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