Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

Davewbrown

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I have a 25hp 1975 Johnson...or maybe it's an Evinrude.
I was quite happy thinking that Evinrude / Johnson - same thing, no issues - until I saw that the parts for them are different.
My motor has a great big "Johnson" on the cowl, but the plate on the side (with the S/N) says "made by Evinrude" - so which parts do I go for?
Thanks for any help...
 

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

look for the freeze plug starboard side of block, it will have correct model #. not unusual for power heads and covers. to be mated together.
 

Davewbrown

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

Hmm..more confused now.
The plate on the side of the engine says "Evinrude 52502B"
The engine block has a plate on the side with the number 314816 on it, which doesn't seem to reference anything.
 

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

52502 Doesn't appear in any list. Got the numbers swapped?? A 25502 is indeed a 1975 Evinrude 25hp.

Anyway, who told you that E/J are different? They are the same motors except for the motor covers. Or are you looking for motor cover parts?
 

Davewbrown

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

Sorry my mistake, as you said, it's 25502B.
What's confusing me is that at the top of this forum the part numbers are listed seperately for Johnson and Evinrude.
If they're the same then no problem.

Thanks for all the help!
Dave...
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

the reason is in the last decade they 2 labels did not produce the same motors, Johnson stayed Carbed, and Evinrude went injectors, FICHT and then E TEC. prior the were the exact motors.
 

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

Originally Johnson & Evinrude were different, competing makes. Outboard Marine was formed (in 1936?) when those 2 makes were purchased and under common ownership. Slowly at first, the 2 makes began to share a little R&D, or at least the fruits of that. For 1949 Johnson brought out the revolutionary 10 with the new separate fuel tank & F-N-R shift. Evinrude started using the midsection & lower unit from the 10 on their exclusive 14 Fastwin for 1950. In 1951 the first true joint venture happened when both division brought out the 25 for 1951, then the 3 for 1952. The other motors were exclusive to each division still. Buccaneer (Gale) was then purchased in the early 1950s. By 1956 Johnson & Evinrude completely shared all motors. Gale meanwhile was selling either older discontinued Evinrude / Elto motors, or economy versions of the J/E stable. Gale actually brought out the single fuel line, fuel pump & non-pressurized tanks years before J/E. Since Gale was building motors for department store brands anonymously, by rolling out the non-pressurized fuel system they could get real world feedback on a limited basis without potentially damaging the Johnson / Evinrude names. Gale was shut down around 1964. J/E picked up some of the Gale motors that were in between the existing power ratings (i.e. 60 horse V4). The Johnson & Evinrude offerings were the same UNTIL the 1990s exactly as tashadaddy said.
 

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

Outboard Marine was formed (in 1936?) close,1929.wiki has a small but excellent history about omc,learned a few interesting things reading it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outboard_Marine_Corporation
That's a great read Cougar. Thanks for the link :)
I was only partly right, OMC had been around since the late twenties, but they only brought Johnson into the fold in 1935.

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As for the ORIGINAL PURPOSE of this thread before I took off on a tangent, Davewbrown, all parts for your motor are the same for Johnson & Evinrude except for the cowl, paint, control knobs and tiller handle.
 

Davewbrown

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Re: Johnson / Evinrude identity crisis?

It's all made for a very interesting read, and now I can pretend to be intelligent while having a conversation about my motor. ;)

Thanks for the info about my outboard, it all makes a lot more sense now :)

Dave...
 
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