1962 40hp sea king

buddy11

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I have recently claimed my fathers old sea king, it is in great condition however I can not get the engine to spark. It has new parts under flywheel such as coil etc. Can any one give me any suggestions or do you know anyone in Michigan who repairs these engines. I would like to keep it original as I said it is in very nice condition.
 

Tom @ Buzzard Bluff

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Re: 1962 40hp sea king

<I can not get the engine to spark. It has new parts under flywheel such as coil etc.>

Who did the work and when?

Please define <coil etc.>

IF 'etc.' includes new points, condensers, plugs and plug wires then functionally you have a 'new' OMC 'universal magneto' system if the work was done properly. In such instances I would start suspecting a defective kill switch and/or grounded ignition wiring. Accumulated grease and dirt under a flywheel and on a mag plate often provides a route to ground that is shorter and has less resistance than the route to the plug. Bad plugs are often the last thing replaced. Veteran 2 cycle mechs replace them up front to eliminate a problem that experience has taught them can mimic many other symptoms and lead them down the wrong path. Inline neon test lamps that fit between the plug and plug wire are ridiculously inexpensive from Horror Freight and many other sources. They are worth their weight in gold in terms of wasted time however in troubleshooting ignition systems.

Please describe your test method by which you determined there is no spark.

Need more definitive info to try to narrow it down.
 

buddy11

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Thank you so much for the information, I took boat into a local boat shop recently however they were not keen on working on it at all. They did not do original work, it was done about 4 years ago and we could never get the motor running. I will take you r information however and go to harbor freight and make purchase also and see if they can figure it out.
Engine is actually pretty clean. I will check it all out per your information and then get back with you! Thanks again for your help.
Roz
 

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Re: 1962 40hp sea king

Thank you so much for the information, I took boat into a local boat shop recently however they were not keen on working on it at all. They did not do original work, it was done about 4 years ago and we could never get the motor running. I will take you r information however and go to harbor freight and make purchase also and see if they can figure it out.
Engine is actually pretty clean. I will check it all out per your information and then get back with you! Thanks again for your help. Roz

Bear a few things in mind to keep it simple-----
Internal combustion engines need 3 things to work----

1. Compression---don't have definitive specs but I would anticipate that your OMC built Gale would require 80-85 PSI to start, run & idle well. A low compression engine will do none of the above well and my own shade-tree acid-test of condition and wear is how low and dependably an old engine will idle.

2. Fuel---in the right amount mixed with the right amount of air---at the right time. Dirty fuel systems are the bane of newbies to restoring old engines to service. It takes them a while to fully grasp that the old religious saying that "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" applies in spades to outboard fuel systems. Nothing brings the lesson home like doing a half-*****ed job over a few times! With a bit of luck and thought they also learn that a 'fuel system' extends from the vent hole in the gas cap to the reedplate that admits the charge into the crankcase. ALL of it must be inspected and cleaned----scrupulously!

3. Ignition----as with fuel, the right amount at the right time. The old magneto ignitions systems are so simple to understand and maintain that the advent of 'electronic ignition" I often suspect was simply a way of creating more service work for dealers. Except for the odd shade-tree electronics guru CDIs and their ilk are great mysteries requiring specialized tools and training to trouble-shoot and egregiously expensive 'black boxes' to repair. Any reasonably intelligent homeowner can bolt on new points, condenser and coils on his lawnmower and that's the extent of service required on outboard magneto systems too.

In addition to the neon test lamps one of the best things I use is another inexpensive test device from Horror Freight. It tests ignition under compression----the real acid-test. Others insist that if your mag will produce a blue-white spark across a 3/8" gap with an audible pop that you're good to go. Both methods have worked for me. Just remember----ALWAYS have the plug wires grounded when cranking the motor. The 'juice' the mag produces HAS to go somewhere and if it doesn't have a convenient source to complete the circuit it can short out across the primary & secondary windings in old coils and ruin them! It is even MORE critical with electronic ignition systems! HTH, Tom
 

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Re: 1962 40hp sea king

Hello Tom,
Thanks for all the info. You don't happen to live in MICHIGAN do you? I do not know anything about boat motors-any engine for that matter however I am going to harbor freight and pick up the tools you suggested, go get my boat and bring it home from the boat shop its at and try to go thry it myself. With all you help I think I can do some of this. I was a millaright for 27years so I can disassemble and assemble.

I know I need to start at the fuel system as "Barry" the guy who has it said the fuel in the glass bowl is dirty. So my first thought was why did he even try to start it with dirty gas? Anyway I will start there and follow your directions. My email address is Jotana49@aol.com
I will not get boat back until Monday.
If your in Michigan, I would love to tow it to you to work on it???
Thanks
Roz
 
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