1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

milkyway

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Great forum. Would had wasted a lot of money had I used mechanics to cure all problems. Thanks to all. So let me continue.<br /><br />Merc 5.0L 1999 - Two weeks ago, I noticed some oil that smelled gas on top of the engine, on the port side of the carburetor. I couldn't find any similar leakage in the carb. Where could this come from?
 

KaGee

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Crankcase vent tube??
 

milkyway

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Vent tube? I have a tube that sits on top of the engine, easy to pop out and pop in. Is this the one? This one is hooked to the port side. Is this what they call the pcv? I also have another tube that is connected to the flame arrestor that seems to do nothing. Are these tubes relevant related to the crankcase vent tube you are are referring to or is it something else? Thanks.
 

milkyway

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Got his from another automechanic's website. This small drop of oil/fuel I have found has a lot more meaning to it. This could be A reason why my idle rpm is fluctuating.<br /><br />""Well, to get to the heart of the matter, you need to CHANGE YOUR OIL at timely intervals! That, and that alone, will prevent almost all PCV valve problems. PCV valves plug up with sludge. Sludge is old oil. If you need to change your PCV valve, chances are somebody's not been changing his oil often enough for driving conditions. And chances are good that you'll need to some serious cleaning of lots of other things on the engine, like the throttle body and Idle Air Control Valve.<br /><br />The system consists of a small air intake breather hose mounted in the intake tract before the throttle body, and the PCV valve, which is typically in the intake manifold or the valve cover. Air flow is from the breather before the throttle body, through the crankcase, up the PCV valve and into the intake manifold after the throttle body. It's basically a controlled air leak, with the PCV valve acting as a one-way check valve that has adjustable flow characteristics.<br /><br />If the PCV valve gets plugged, here's what happens, roughly in order:<br />1. Excess crankcase pressure begins to back up the engine's breather tube, into the intake air tube upstream of the throttle body <br />2. Engine management system senses absence of air from plugged PCV valve, and adjusts fuel mixture accordingly. Engine makes slightly less power. <br />3. Oil begins to be pumped into the air intake tube through the breather hose, upstream of the throttle plate. <br />4. Oil runs down the intake tube into the throttle body. <br />5. Oil sludges up the throttle body and throttle plate. Idle Air Control (IAC or EACV) valve gets contaminated and begins to stick. <br />6. IAC cannot adjust idle air mixture to compensate for plugged PCV valve. Idle drops, may become erratic as throttle plate cannot close completely. <br />7. Oil drips into intake manifold runners. Blue smoke seen out of tailpipe. <br />8. Breather tube begins to get constricted from oil contamination and airflow is reduced. Crankcase pressure mounts dramatically.<br />9. Oil pushed past valve guide oil seals. More blue smoke. <br />10. Dripping on driveway as oil is pushed past seals. <br /><br />End of quote
 

Purduebarry

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Whole lot of trouble from a $2.00 part! Sort of the chaos theory run amuck! I always call the PCV a $5.00 tune-up. I'd start here.
 

milkyway

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Only $5 for that thing? The fuel filter now runs $10 here. Always something - finish removing old fuel, change exhaust bellow, grease gimbal and coupler, oil change and oil filter, new fuel filter, check timing, clean carburetor, change serpentine belt,etc. Maybe I should change my hobby from boating to being a certified marine mechanic. Then I can use other people's boat for leisure...
 

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

I've never paid more than $5 bucks for a PCV valve, little piece of plastic and metal. I forgot the "Marine Grade" adder, perhaps they are $50! Here is a link but call iboats first, I<br />m sure they have it too. $5.05 if I'm correct with my search! Do these on your auto too, cheap tune up, noticable difference and easy to swap!<br /><br /> Merc PCV
 

Purduebarry

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Pop the hood on your car, you'll see the same little thing poking out of the valve covers. Sometimes they run a little rubber hose to it on the FI engines, I guess it gets it closer to the intake vacuum. Like I said, it's a $5.00 tune up. Some people clean them, you know they are fouled becuase they are sluggish when you shake them. I'd replace though because the internal spring gets weak and it's cheap!
 

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Clean the flame arrestor too, it might be gummy and full of oil residue.
 

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

The ones in boats are just a shell no parts the air flow from the carb just draws all the crankcase fumes back into the motor<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

KaGee

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

There is no PCV valve on my engine.
 

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Re: 1/2 teaspoon of oil+fuel? on engine top

Get warm, then shut it down. Then look for a dribble out of the throttle shaft linkage, or somewhere around the carb. Forget PCV valve
 
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