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Scott Danforth

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Keith Richards and Willie Nelson do not eat healthy and they both will outlive us all
 

nola mike

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In the US, most EVs are coal powered. Not much solar happening at night when the majority of them are being recharged. We had to install locks on the outside outlets at work due to a couple of EV driver employees using our electricity to recharge their vehicles without even asking if that was allowed. Crazy stuff.

I mean, totally not true. this stuff has been debunked so many times.
 

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Well, since I had to literally confront the thieves and talk with their company’s president, I can assure you that it has not been debunked. While the coal comment my be hyperbole, the US gets well more than half the electricity from good ol’ clean, inexpensive, abundant, reliable fossil fuels. Especially more so at night when unsustainably expensive, cost prohibitive “green weenie” generation is not doing anything. Don’t get me wrong… I believe electric powered vehicles are wonderful. On the golf course or under a 6 year old’s rear end.
 

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Well, since I had to literally confront the thieves and talk with their company’s president, I can assure you that it has not been debunked. While the coal comment my be hyperbole, the US gets well more than half the electricity from good ol’ clean, inexpensive, abundant, reliable fossil fuels. Especially more so at night when unsustainably expensive, cost prohibitive “green weenie” generation is not doing anything. Don’t get me wrong… I believe electric powered vehicles are wonderful. On the golf course or under a 6 year old’s rear end.
I'm always curious as to why people are scared of renewable energy and then double down as if their manhood is in doubt when questioned about it. Certainly as a nation we're better off with more renewable energy, but keep going...
 

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I'm always curious as to why people are scared of renewable energy and then double down as if their manhood is in doubt when questioned about it. Certainly as a nation we're better off with more renewable energy, but keep going...
Yeah - that's exactly what it is about. It has nothing to do with the juice not being worth the squeeze, common sense economics, or anything else related to facts. It's just about ego and manhood.🙄

Unfortunately, to make electric power mobile things, facts have to be overcome such as a viable storage device, full recharge times as low as it takes to fill a fuel tank with petrol, and a viable generation device. For some reason, most of those who scream that the proven unsustainable solar and wind power devices are the way of the future are the same ones against the cleanest form of energy generation there is; nuclear power.
Solve these facts and it starts to appear to be a reality. Today, it's just a comedy act that only those that understand and have a firm grasp on reality get the joke.
 
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Probably similar conversations were happening 120 years ago when there were horseless carriages. "Where are they going to get gas for those things" . . . "who's going to fix them when they breakdown" . . . "and they so easily get stuck in the mud"

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The EV’s here are very popular and make a lot of sence on the island. The big problem is there is no one to work on them yet so they have to be taken off island. If they were in an accident and there is any reason to believe the battery system was damaged they can’t even be brought into the ferry due to a fire risk. They have to pay a barge service to transport it to the main land.
Don’t even get me started on the wind farm debate around here. What a **** show.
 

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We had this conversation last night funny enough. The misinformation around all technology has just made things worse. Then you have every keyboard warrior using a digital curated content creator (phone and search engine) to put that individual in an echo chamber for their beliefs. Then you have politically motivated people trying to get subject matter experts to say something on it that they can twist around and interpret as something else... aaaand its a mess.
 

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It sure is. I have over heard some pretty heated arguments. I don’t get into it for the same reasons I don’t talk politics.
 

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Yeah - that's exactly what it is about. It has nothing to do with the juice not being worth the squeeze, common sense economics, or anything else related to facts. It's just about ego and manhood.🙄

Unfortunately, to make electric power mobile things, facts have to be overcome such as a viable storage device, full recharge times as low as it takes to fill a fuel tank with petrol, and a viable generation device. For some reason, most of those who scream that the proven unsustainable solar and wind power devices are the way of the future are the same ones against the cleanest form of energy generation there is; nuclear power.
Solve these facts and it starts to appear to be a reality. Today, it's just a comedy act that only those that understand and have a firm grasp on reality get the joke.
when you start with a blatantly untrue "fact" about power generation, and then proceed to "greenie weenie", you pretty much show your capacity for a discussion. EVs are viable now for a huge chunk of the population, and would/will continue to improve if there weren't active efforts to kill the technology. the fire thing is real but overblown and solvable. I'd have a tough time making an argument to buy a new ICE today (car). no maintenance, way cheaper to run, fast, fun. my only reason to buy one is that I want a stick that isn't a computer on wheels, and good luck finding that.
The EV’s here are very popular and make a lot of sence on the island. The big problem is there is no one to work on them yet so they have to be taken off island. If they were in an accident and there is any reason to believe the battery system was damaged they can’t even be brought into the ferry due to a fire risk. They have to pay a barge service to transport it to the main land.
Don’t even get me started on the wind farm debate around here. What a **** show.
where are you? interesting that they killed all the wind farms in New England. aside from the long standing NIMBYs, doesn't seem to make much sense
 

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I’m on Martha’s Vineyard. Right in the thick of all the madness.
Love the vineyard. used to go there often a long time ago, lived on Chappaquiddick for 6 months, waited tables at the Edgartown yacht club. we used to "borrow" dingies to get home since the bars closed after the ferry stopped running. yup, the Nantucket NIMBYs were who I was talking about.
 

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Electric battery chemicals are mined and transported to battery purifying companies. Then Trucked to actual battery making companies. Pollution ? Transportation truck pollution ? A lot of pollution to build and deliver all those electric vehical parts. New car delivery trucks pollute to be built and deliver cars. BUUTT BUUTT we are green B S people.
Listen to us. Do as we tell you what to do !!
 
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