1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

KFranklin

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I just bought a boat with an 87 Johnson 225. It ran great the first night I tried it out. The next morining I took it and fuled it up (16:6) and hit the water. it ran great all afternoon long.<br /><br />After about 6hrs in the water I realized it would not accelerate past about 7-8mph. I took the hood off and tried to manually throttle it up, same results. I am new to outboards and was hoping someone here could point me in the direction to get started.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br /> Kenny
 

JB

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Re: 1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

Howdy, KFranklin.<br /><br />I assume that the engine is not speeding up. If so, you are probably running on 3 cylinders.<br /><br />Get a manual. Check the spark on all cylinders. I expect you will find 3 that don't. Switch the powerpacks and try again. If the trouble switches, you need a new powerpack.<br /><br />Let us know what you find. :)
 

EVMIII

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Re: 1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

KFranklin<br /><br />Did you get an alarm? Your motor has an overheat alarm that will put your engine in "slow mode" if it overheats (or the sensor thinks it overheats). Did the engine vibrate excessively if you tried to go over about 2000 RPM? If so, check for heat and/or water pressure problems. Get a good manual and it will demonstrate several tests to help isolate yur problem. There's alot of folks on this board that know a lot more than me, gather some more info and repost if you can't solve your problem and I'm sure someone will help. Good luck. Safe and Happy Boating.
 

JB

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Re: 1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

Thanks, GuardBum.<br /><br />I didn't even think about the S.L.O.W. circuit.<br /><br />Well, they say that the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first one was.<br /><br />Cheers. :)
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

KFranklin.... No offense intended to anyone here, but the 1987 200/225hp did not incorporate the S.L.O.W. feature. Question.... what is meant by the term you used of (16:6)? First time I've come across that.<br /><br />Regardless of the problem, it's best to take a compression reading. That engine should give a reading of approximately 100+ psi and even on all cylinders. Due to the nature of the beast, leave all the spark plugs in, excepting the cylinder you're reading, otherwise the starter bendix will kick out prematurely.<br /><br />NOTE: DO NOT have the ignition key in the ON position! Leave the ignition switch in the OFF position, and crank the engine at the starter solenoid (small jumper from battery side of the solenoid to the small 3/8" nut terminal.... not the ground terminal). You DO NOT want that engine to start while you're taking a compression check!<br /><br />Next, rig up a spark tester whereas you can set a gap of 7/16". Remove all the spark plugs. You should be able to get a strong blue flame that will jump that gap easily on all six cylinders.<br /><br />If you do not obtain spark as mentioned above, look under the flywheel closely. There is a stator there whereas the small shinny coils pertain to the charging system. The two large black coils you see at the back of the stator pertain to the ignition system. Those two large black coils supply approximately 300v AC to the powerpack(s).<br /><br />The charging portion of the stator is a 35amp charging system and runs quite hot. In time it results in having those two large black coils melt down. If so, you should be able to see a substance that has dripped out of them down to the powerhead area. When this happens, there is a voltage drop, the stator can not supply the needed 300v to the pack(s) and the pack fails to function. There are times when one cannot see the melt down and it is necessary to remove the flywheel to view the stator properly.<br /><br />Note that even with a melted down stator, there are times when the engine is cold that the stator will function. But as the engine warms up, and the stator gets hot, it (the ignition) fails as explained.<br /><br />Note that the flywheel nut torque is exactly 145 foot pounds. Failure to torque the nut will result in a sheared flywheel key and damage to the flywheel and crankshaft tapers.<br /><br />While you're looking under that flywheel, check to see if the magnets have come loose. They should all be locked (epoxy) in place with roughly a 1/4" space between them. Let us know what you find.
 

KFranklin

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Re: 1987 Johnson 225 - lost power!

Well, thanks for the info guys. It looks like all the cylinders are hitting and my heat alarm never went off. <br /><br />I cleaned all the carburators this afternoon and she's back up to about 50% of full power(25-30mph). When I got back in I checked the fuel filter (doh!) and wow is it nasty! It looks like I'm having a fuel problem, thankfully. If it doesn't act right after that I'm going to check the compression.<br /><br />I am going to pick up a new filter tomorrow, re-clean the carburators and try running it again. Thanks for the quick replies and great ideas!<br /><br />Kenny<br /><br />P.S. By 16:6 I meant 16oz of oil to 6gal. I guess I am not sure of the 'correct' way to say it, hehe.
 
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