oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

mjv_fireball

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I think my evinrude starflite IV with selectric shift is an 1963. model 50931 serial 03651. 4000-5000 rpm. 75 hp. at 4500 rpm. V-4 stand up. my problem is, I think oil tipe. I can get it to idel good, but when i hit 1/4 throttel phut phut, die out, and fouled plugs. the people at mr o's keep telling me, that I should only use two cycle oil in my mix. But my instruction card reads "FUEL-MIX 1 U.S. QT. OUTBOARD OR SAE 30 OIL PER EACH 6 U.S. OR 5 IMPERIAL GALLONS OFREGULAR GASOLINE (RATIO 1 TO 24)" Am I useing the wrong oil? Or should I try adding a lead sub. to my mix? When I bought the boat it ran grate on the mix that was in the tank. what am I doing wrong. thanks. fireball WI. :confused:
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

Use fresh regular gasoline ,ad <br />1 part Two-cycle oil ( good outboard two-cycle oil ) to <br />24 parts gas .<br /><br />No more, no less .<br /><br />Drain the fuel line before you start the engine whith frsh gas mixture ( including carbs ).
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

so the two cycle oil is ok? And if I had added too much it would act up :cool: thanks alot. don't use unleaded? I'll put new pluggs in, clen it out and try it agen in the morning. thanks. fireball
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

What about unleaded gas? would that make it act up like that?
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

I use only unleaded gas ,we don´t have any other in Norway today :) , only 95 or 98 oct .
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

DROLL thanks alot. you're a good man. :) norway? Is there good fishing there?
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

can i put a charging sistom on that motter, or no?
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

What is the best manul for me to get, for rebilding my motter? and where can I find rebild kits for it?
 

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Hello.<br />You should use TCW-3 oil. This is the type that has been developed for water cooled 2 cycle engines. It is quite different from regular 2 cycle oil.<br />Because oils have improved vastly ,you can safely run a 1:32 mix.Plenty of people run 1:50 but I feel that is pushing it a bit.<br />Your plugs fouling up may be the result of mixture that is too rich, or a choke that is stuck.<br />Check the needle valves on your carburator,you may want to close them a bit.<br />There are charging systems available.These are generator and rectifier type.They only produce 10 ampere and that only above 2000 rpm.<br />These engines are magneto systems and the only time they use electricity is when you run the starter.It is a lot cheaper and more effective to just carry a loaded battery with you every time.<br />There is a link at the bottom of this page for repair manuals.By the way it is Seloc not selco manual<br />www.tcoutboard.com<br />has all the tuneup kits. Unleaded gas makes no difference.
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

MJV..... The engine powerhead consists of having all roller or needle type bearings, and it is quite safe to use the 50/1 (1pt 50/1 oil to 6gal gas). As Rolmops has stated, use the TCW-3 50/1 oil. A fuel rating of 87 octane unleaded will work just fine.<br /><br />The explanation of dying out when throttle is applied, assuming that the compression and spark/timing is okay, would indicate that the carburetor is fouled and will require cleaning.<br /><br />Carb adjustment procedure follows:<br /><br />(Carburetor Adjustments - Older V/4 Downdraft Carb)<br /> <br />NOTE: The early model downdraft carburetors incorporated "Adjustable High Speed Jets". The later model downdraft carburetors used "Fixed High Speed Jets". Follow the below instructions accordingly. If you do not have adjustable high speed jets, ignore those paragraphs pertaining to same.<br /><br />Lift the center High Speed Control lever and turn it so that the point faces forward, resting on the high ridge. This will disengage the lever control gear from the individual high speed jets (slots). Have the slow speed needle valve knobs installed upside down so that they can be turned without encountering any obstruction.<br /><br />Gently seat each of the High Speed needle valves, then back each one out one (1) turn. Gently seat each of the Slow Speed needle valves, then back each one out one and one half (1-1/2) turns. NOTE... have the jam nut on the s/speed needles snug so that viberation won't have any effect on them, but loose enough so that you can turn them without a great amout of effort.<br /><br />(High Speed)<br />With a reliable person at the wheel, and one kneeling in front of the engine, start the engine (yes, it will run lousy with the above initial needle valve settings), put it into forward gear, and apply full throttle. Start with the High Speed adjustment on the left using a screwdrive that properly fits the slot.<br /><br />(High Speed Adjustments)<br />At full throttle, with the proper size screwdriver, slowly start turning one of the H/S needles in segments of 1/8 turn, waiting momentarily for the engine to respond, then repeat turning. You will reach a point where the engine will start to die out. At that point, back that needle valve out approximately 1/4 turn. Now, go to the other High Speed needle valve and repeat that procedure. At some point in that 1/4 turn out, you will find the smoothest high speed setting (you can now lower the throttle rpm). That will have both high speed needle valves set correctly, and at that point you can lift that center lever adjustment of that high ridge, keeping it lifted until the point is facing the engine, then lower it into its proper position. (When you turn that lever now, you're adjusting both High Speed needle valves at the same time.)<br /><br />(Slow Speed Adjustments)<br />Now, lowering the rpms of course, take the engine out of gear and set the throttle just to where the engine will stay running. Again, in segments of 1/8 turn, slowly start turning in one of the slow speed needle valves, waiting a few seconds between each turning for the engine to respond. As you turn the s/speed needles in, the rpms will increase..... and as it does, lower the rpms to where the engine will just stay running (otherwise the rpms will climb quite high). You will reach a point whereas the engine will either start to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mjild backfire). At that point, back the needle valve out 1/4 turn. Repeat the process with the remaining slow speed needle. Again, at some point in that 1/4 turn out, you will find the smoothest setting. When finished, tighten the jam nut somewhat, then remove and reinstall the s/speed knobs correctly (right side up).
 

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Re: oil mix, HELP! Evinrude 1963 75 hp. outboard.

Thanks guys. I've tryed a 50:1 ratio. would not even start. of cores I was using a 2-cycle oil. I have not tryed a TCW-3. I'll clean the carb. reset. remix at 50:1 and work my up and see where it runes best. HOW do you set the timing on that motter? I know that the distribiter, turn's as you throttel up. thanks alot Joe Reevs for the in depth info. I think it will help alot. :)
 
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