Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

robert123

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House Bill number 2455 up for voting in the curent Texas session will outlaw 2 stroke outboard engines. The bill porports to reduce oil pollution of water. The relevant section is:<br /><br />SECTION 2. Section 7.176(a), Water Code, is amended to read as follows: <br />(a) A person commits an offense if the person:<br />(1) intentionally discharges used oil into a sewer, drainage system, septic tank, surface water or groundwater, watercourse, or marine water unless the concentration of used oil in the waste stream resulting from the discharge as it enters water <br />in the state is less than 15 parts per million following the discharge;<br /><br />This will ban all water bourne 2-stroke engines. Look up your rep at State Representatives and call them.
 

Mark42

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

I'm not from Texas, but I do have one thing to say to that:<br /><br />That really sucks.
 

John_S

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

Are you sure that they mean to ban all 2-cycle outboard engines? To me, they are talking about "used oil", such as from car oil changes, etc.
 

robert123

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

I'm sure the intent is to stop people dumping oil in the watertable or bay. However, if you read it the way it is written it will ban outboards. If the oil coming out of an outboard exhaust is not used what is it? hardly new or fresh.
 

tommays

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

it allready happened at a big lake out west and anyone with old 2 cycles was SOL <br /><br />so if it passes it wont be the first<br /><br /><br />tommays
 

Elmer Fudge

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

I understand the need to be friendily to the environment in which we inhabit, those who are found guilty of being negligent in their disposal methods of waste and toxins, indeed they should to be lawfully prosecuted, outlawing two stroke outboard motors is absolutely not going to remedy the pollution problem, it is my understanding that the new E-Tec two strokes are as clean as the four strokes, if the talk is about phasing out the manufacturing of regular two strokes, thats another matter completely, but to discriminately outlaw all existing two stroke outboard motors! that in my view is asinine.
 

18rabbit

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

Originally posted by robert123:<br /> ...If the oil coming out of an outboard exhaust is not used what is it?
In use.
 

John_S

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

I agree, it needs to be written better, but given the exerpt, it doesn't seem to be targeting outboards. It doesn't even sound like a CARB EPA spec. I wouldn't know if my I/O passes that spec. Have you talked to any state rep yet and gotten their input?
 

robert123

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

I've called my reps and they know nothing about it. They are supposed to be calling me back. I don't object to cleaning up the environment, I do however, object to having to shell out $40,000+ to replace my 2 200hp Yamahas with 4 strokes. Grandfather existing engines in, forbid new dirty outboards, fine. Don't just sit back and say they won't pass it. They will, they just banned BIC lighters on aircraft, how asinine is that? It takes less than two minutes to look up your rep (see first post) and call them. If you have any reservations at all then just call 'em.
 

JB

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Re: Bill to outlaw outboard engines in texas

Let's put this in Outboard Non-repair topics.
 
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