no fire 1973 85hp johnson

garepr

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I've replaced the power pack,stator,and rectifer and still no spark. What else could it be but the ignition swith. If any one can help please respond
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

Remove the s/plugs, disconnect the large RED main electrical connector at the engine. Crank the engine via a jumper at the starter solenoid. If you now have spark, replace the ignition switch.
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

I'll try that tomorrow if that doesn';t work any other suggestions?
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

HI again this may help<br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br />Author Topic: Magneto, C-D, No spark with plugs in. <br />R.Johnson <br />Ensign <br />Member # 33412 <br /><br /> posted August 29, 2004 10:50 AM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Some time back, someone posted a problem they were having with their engine where they had fire only when they removed the spark plugs. What brings this subject to mind is that I just ran into this problem. What I want to bring up is that the sensor coils on the 73 thru 77 3, and 4 cylinder engines are adjustable. Rapair makes a ring guage to make this adjustment. The number of the guage is R553-9702, and appears to be made of molded plastic that slips down on the crank shaft taper. The engine I had showed 1, to 1 1/2 volts with the plugs in. After adjusting the sensors the voltage went to 3 1/2 - 4 volts, and cured the problem. The sensors are held in place by a screw that goes thru the aluminum ring, and has a nut on both sides, the outside nut being held by epoxy. To adjust, this epoxy must be removed. To do this, I used a triangle needle file ground to a chisel edge on the front. This will keep you from gouging the aluminum ring. The wrench needed to fit the nut is a 3/16, what worked well for me is a thin tweezers to adjust the inner nut.On the sensor base there is a casting boss that will let the sensor out only so far.Checking an old sensor base in the shop that had this problem, there was over .020 clearance as it came from the manufacture. After adjusting, the epoxy lock over the nut must be replaced. Any fast drying epoxy will work for this. I hope this information may help, as I have not seen it mentioned. <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Posts: 951 | From: LaPorte City, Iowa | Registered: Sep 2003 | IP: Logged | <br /> <br />ledgefinder <br />Senior Chief Petty Officer <br />Member # 9054 <br /><br /> posted August 29, 2004 08:51 PM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Excellent post...thanks! <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Posts: 737 | From: Berkshires MA | Registered: May 2002 | IP: Logged | <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /> Quick Reply <br />Message: <br /><br />HTML is enabled. <br />UBB Code™ is enabled. <br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />Click here to register! <br /> R.Johnson <br />Ensign <br />Member # 33412 <br /><br /> posted August 29, 2004 10:50 AM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Some time back, someone posted a problem they were having with their engine where they had fire only when they removed the spark plugs. What brings this subject to mind is that I just ran into this problem. What I want to bring up is that the sensor coils on the 73 thru 77 3, and 4 cylinder engines are adjustable. Rapair makes a ring guage to make this adjustment. The number of the guage is R553-9702, and appears to be made of molded plastic that slips down on the crank shaft taper. The engine I had showed 1, to 1 1/2 volts with the plugs in. After adjusting the sensors the voltage went to 3 1/2 - 4 volts, and cured the problem. The sensors are held in place by a screw that goes thru the aluminum ring, and has a nut on both sides, the outside nut being held by epoxy. To adjust, this epoxy must be removed. To do this, I used a triangle needle file ground to a chisel edge on the front. This will keep you from gouging the aluminum ring. The wrench needed to fit the nut is a 3/16, what worked well for me is a thin tweezers to adjust the inner nut.On the sensor base there is a casting boss that will let the sensor out only so far.Checking an old sensor base in the shop that had this problem, there was over .020 clearance as it came from the manufacture. After adjusting, the epoxy lock over the nut must be replaced. Any fast drying epoxy will work for this. I hope this information may help, as I have not seen it mentioned. <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Posts: 951 | From: LaPorte City, Iowa | Registered: Sep 2003 | IP: Logged | <br /> <br />ledgefinder <br />Senior Chief Petty Officer <br />Member # 9054 <br /><br /> posted August 29, 2004 08:51 PM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Excellent post...thanks! <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Posts: 737 | From:
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

Thanks for the tips I disconnected the red plug and still no fire so I'll check the sensor and see if adjusting then will do anything. Thanks again for all the information.
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

Originally posted by Joe Reeves:<br /> Remove the s/plugs, disconnect the large RED main electrical connector at the engine. Crank the engine via a jumper at the starter solenoid. If you now have spark, replace the ignition switch.
 

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Re: no fire 1973 85hp johnson

still no fire I don't know what else to do any more suggestions.
 
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