115 hp johnson fuel prob

Barns

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I had my boat out and mid day it stoped running.I was able to get back by staying on the prime ball.I have hooked up an external tank, cleaned the pulse limmiter and everything else.Im just not sure that the vro would go out just like that.Any ideas?<br /> :confused:
 

Walker

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

Yep, it could go out just like that. Time to trouble shoot the VRO, after checking the fuel system from the tank back to the motor for leaks.
 

Barns

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

I already have done that.any ideas on how to troubleshoot the vro?I looked at the diaphrams and there not torn.thats why i couldnt figure it going out just like that.but if they can they can.thanx
 

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

Hi, maybe you could post the model# & year, might give someone a better idea of what may be wrong.
 

Walker

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

A manual for your particular motor is a good start.
 

MCM

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

Ditto what Walker said, preferrably OEM.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

You don't need torn diaphrams for pump problems.They may be stretched so far they can't push enough fuel.<br />Generaly if you can keep running by pumping the primer bulb,the pump has gone bad.On the fuel side.<br /><br />DHP
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

Those diaphrams simply move back and forth. There are check valves in the VRO that close when the diaphrams are in one direction, then open when in the opposite direction, thustly drawing the fuel/oil into the pump.<br /><br />Pumping the fuel primer bulb..... in effect you are acting the part of a manual fuel pump. If anything was wrong between the primer bulb and the fuel supply (leaks etc) where air could enter the supply line, by the same token fuel should be leaking out at that point and would be obvious by sight and/or smell.<br /><br />You've said nothing about the fuel primer bulb going flat, and the fact that you can pump and have the fuel bulb return to normal indicates that there is no fuel restriction.<br /><br />Apparently from what you've said about the Pulse Limiter, you've also checked the pressure line from the crankcase to the VRO pump for breaks, leaks, etc. I assume that there are no fuel leaks anywhere or you would have mentioned them.<br /><br />I also assume that the engine is not knocking due to any kind of powerhead failure.<br /><br />This leaves three possibilities I would think. Either a reed plate (leaf valve) pertaining to the cylinder that operates the VRO has broken, which would eliminate the power (pressure) needed to operate the VRO (possible but the engine would be running on three cylinders), or the related engine piston has blown apart which would also eliminate that needed pressure (unlikely), or the VRO is faulty at some point (most likely).<br /><br />If the VRO loads the carburetors up with pure oil (not a mixture) when you stop pumping the fuel primer bulb and the engine is allowed to run out of gas, that proves that the engine's crankcase pressure (reeds, piston, gaskets) is okay. This indicates that something is wrong with the fuel side of the VRO (diaphram, check valve, something). Let us know what you find.
 

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

mod#tj115tleie<br />ser#g02964000<br />I have a book.I have tried most of the things to do but there is a couple that i cant.need different tools.I did check the compresion.3 cyl. at about 112 and 1 at about 106.the book said as long as there within 10% there fine.The low one does hold compresion.
 

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

300 dollars is alot to spend.But salmon season is coming soon
 

Barns

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

One thinig i forgot to say is that my oil alarm goes off when i make it run with the prime ball
 

Barns

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

anyone know how many psi the pulse limitor should have coming from the motor
 

Barns

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Re: 115 hp johnson fuel prob

Thanx guys. The fuel pump was out.I put the new one on and she runs like a champ
 
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