fouling plugs

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I have a 1997 75 hp mercury force outboard motor<br />and I keep fouling plugs. The motor will not stay running at idle but if i give more gas it runs.<br />I change the plugs twice it seem to be lacking spark. The bottom plug is always wet when I take it out. Please help
 

mellowyellow

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Re: fouling plugs

I'll guess... unburnt fuel, she's flooding.<br />defective float? ever rebuilt carbs on her?<br />good luck,<br />M.Y.
 

jim dozier

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Re: fouling plugs

Ditto what he said an also verify with the book that you are using the correct (heat range) sparkplug.
 

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Re: fouling plugs

That was my feeling too so I took the carb off and cleaned it and check with the OEM on the plugs.<br />No luck still have the same problem.
 

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My guess is that you've got a weak spark on the lower plug. Start checking ignition components. Do you have a manual? Unplug the lower sparkplug while the engine is running, does it get worse or no change?
 

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Re: fouling plugs

All three plugs get wet and I unpluged each plug one at a time and it ran the same with out any change. I have also drained the gas thinking maybe that was the problem still no luck.<br />Thanks for the help guys, but my mission continues.........
 

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If you unplugged each of the 3 plugs 1 at a time and there was no change on any of them that would seem to indicate that none of the cylinders were firing. :confused: Probably things are out of kilter in all of them.<br />1.Pull the plugs and ground them to the engine and check for strong spark. Better yet get a spark tester and you should jump a 1/2 inch strong blue spark. If not you gotta start checking ignition components.<br /><br />2.When the engine is attempting to idle does choking it help?<br /><br />3. Pull the airbox off the carbs and watch the throats while its running, does gas leak out while your attempting to idle?<br /><br />When you cleaned the carbs what exactly did you do. Did you remove the carbs, completely disassemble them, gain visual access to the high speed, mid-range, and idle jets, soak them overnight in carb cleaner, and blow them out with compressed air? Did you replace the float valve, float, and re-set the float adjustment? Did you install news gaskets? A common thread in a lot of posts on this board appears to be incomplete carb rebuilds. People with symtoms of carb problems even after they have "rebuilt" their carbs.<br /><br />If you can rule out insufficient spark its gotta be your carb. It is eihter too rich, probably from a stuck open or incorrect float adjustment. Or, it is too lean from crud still left in 1 or more jet orifices.<br /><br />Also you should check your compression.
 

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Re: fouling plugs

I only took the carb off and sprayed it with carb cleaner. i will try soakink it overnight and see what happens. When I pulled the sparkplug wire I got spark out off all of them when it was running. Do you know anything about the switch box and how to test it? Do know what the compression should be at. When it is idling gas does come out of the carb.
 

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Ahhhhh, the way. Spraying the carbs just makes em look pretty. Dismantle that sucker and get to everything and soak it overnight. From your description the float valve is leaking. At idle it is getting too much gas and fouling the plugs. At higher speeds the engine demand is enough so that the mixture is OK. Either replace the float valve if you haven't already, check the floatiness of the float, and set the float adjustment so that when the carb body is upside down the float is parallel with the bottom of the carb. If you have a manual there will be a specific measurement with a feeler gauge or something.<br /><br />Compression should be over 100 psi and each cylinder should be within 10 psi of the others.
 

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Re: fouling plugs

Jimd is right.<br />Try that and let us know the results. :cool: :) :cool:
 

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Re: fouling plugs

Fouling can be a very common result of low compression and thus unburnt fuel, caused by stuch rings. Hopefully decarbing the engine will remedy this.<br /><br /> Decarbing is a 2 part process. One preventative, done by using a fuel additive to prevent carbon build up. SeaFoam is such a fuel additive and can be found at most auto parts stores. It works as a fuel system cleaner and should be used as a preventative maintenance procedure.<br /><br />If your intent is REMOVE the existing carbon buildup from the cylinders, heads, and rings, then a spray decarb solvent product is needed. Buy at least 2 cans of decarb. Some people use one can per cylinder.<br /><br />Run engine at fast idle, with engine running<br />spray liberal amount into each carb,<br />spray some more, spray a larger amount into carbs until engine chokes out and stops,<br />remove spark plugs and spray decarb liberally into each cylinder, install the spark plugs, let it soak for 1 to 12 hours. <br />Start the engine and run at medium throttle, or if at the lake, run it at full throttle. It won't hurt to spray some more through the carbs. Run it for atleast 10 minutes to flush the crud out of your engine. Now remove and clean or replace the spark plugs. <br />-------------------------------------------------<br />This is listed as a maintenance procedure in the owners manual. Do it every 60 hours, more often if engine is used at low speeds.
 
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