1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

mk3georgia

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I just purchased a 1984 fish and ski with a Mercury 90 hp (6 cylinder). The motor starts and runs great, but it is temperamental when I need to idle it up to the dock or trailer after a long run at full or half throttle. It does appear to idle fine whenever I do short runs between fishing spots. (Don’t know if this is because the motor gets a chance to cool down a little before I try to have it idle.) It seems strange that it does idle fine sometimes. I also noticed that when I have the cowling off and pump the gas bulb gas squirts out the hole in the brass screw on top of the float bowl and out the throat of the lower carburetor. Does anyone have any suggestions of what the problem is and a remedy?
 

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

The idle problem could be loose / worn linkange my 115 does that sometimes too. I've learned to play with the handle to get around it. BUT<br /><br />The other thing is an indicator of a float problem with that carb, and could definatly be a factor in the idle issues. You'll need to take that apart to clean / fix the float needle.<br /><br />-W
 

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

Great! I will give your suggestions a try. Not certain how to get to the bowl and float, but have purchases a SELOC manual that should provide some information.<br />Thank you again,<br />KLU
 

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

It's easies to remove the front inner cowl support and the starter. Then remove all 3 carb caps with the connecting fuel line attached together as a group.<br /><br />-W
 

mk3georgia

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

One other thing I noticed the last time I took the boat out. When I put it back into the garage and lowered the motor back into the run position there was some sludge the came out of the exhaust around the prop. Is this normal?<br />Thanks,
 
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mk3georgia,<br /><br />I think one or more of your carbs is running on the rich side. A rich mixture will definetely cause idle problems. A sticking needle valve can be intermittant.<br /><br />A carb service is in order. I would do all of them.<br /><br />The sludge can be from running rich. As part of your repairs, I would do a thorough decarb.<br /><br />Read this:<br /><br />Since this pops up every other day on some board, try this method, I picked it up on another board and have been using it for awhile now,works great.<br />Tip for the Week <br />Do-It-Yourself Engine Tip; A Simple and Cost Effective Way to De-Carbon an Outboard <br />By Capt. Bob Dunkelberger dunk75@comcast.net <br />This works for Carbed, EFI, Ficht, HPDI, Opti-max and even 4-strokes... and should be administered after every 50-60 hours of use. <br />First you need a separate small fuel tank. One of those 3-gallon red Tempos works well or an empty gallon milk jug in a pinch, but it might be a bit messier. <br />I use Seafoam over the OEM (original equipment manufacturer) stuff like OMC Engine Tuner or Mercury Power Tune. Note: in the last few years they changed the formula and you have to let them sit up 12 hours. Who's got time for that? Seafoam does the job in 15 minutes and can be purchased from NAPA, Car Quest or other auto stores. <br />You'll need 3/4 gallon of gasoline and one 16oz can of Seafoam for each engine. Don't forget to add 3oz of oil if you are pre-mixing in a carbed engine. Use a 3 ft piece of fuel hose off the small tank. Connect this tank to your engine by pulling off the main tank fuel hose from the intake side of your water separating fuel filter and plug the hose off the small tank onto that fitting. Or you can separate the fuel line on the tank side primer ball, so you can still use your primer. If your engine has a fuel plug then you will also need a fuel plug on the smaller tank's hose. <br />Start the engine, let it warm up and start pulling the mix into the engine. You may have to increase the idle to keep it running once she gets loaded with the Seafoam. Run the engine 15 minutes at the dock or just cruising around under 2500 rpm's. Then shut it down and let it sit for another 15 minutes. <br />Restart the engine; the smoke you see is the carbon burning off. Do the whole thing again and let her sit again for 15 more minutes. If she smokes after the second time do it again. <br />I've never seen one still smoke after three doses. (I bought a Bronco two years ago that had 95,000 miles on it. When I used Seafoam on it I had the neighbors hanging out of their front doors looking for where the fire was after I started it the first time there so much smoke) <br />The gallon mix should be just enough to do this 3 times. You don't need a wide-open throttle and you don't need to change the plugs. The plugs are cleaned at the same time as the combustion chambers. My suggestion is that every 50-60hrs is the optimal time to change plugs in most engines. <br />I cleaned an antique Evinrude once that had a 1/4" of solid carbon on the exhaust chamber walls by running a 1/2 gal of the aforementioned mix through it. Seafoam, a great product, has been around since the 1930's and it's what they used when they were burning straight 4 stroke 40SAE oils in outboards. <br />For you guys with the 4 stroke outboards? Those engines work 10 times as hard as any auto engine ever will and they too will carbon up. Too many are under the assumption that it's totally the 2 stroke oil that causes the carbon, Wrong... it's also the additives they put in the fuels today. The carbon inhibitors in 2-stroke oil are there for this reason also. Remember when gasoline used to smell like gasoline, today it smells more like bad cologne. <br />For those guys that like to work the carbon treatment by spraying it down the carbs, Seafoam also comes in spray can called Deep Creep. It's the same stuff under pressure and notes on the can, "Oxygen Sensor Safe". After that, if your engine manufacturer recommends a daily additive treatment then do so. The tank and hose are a one-time purchase and the Seafoam is only costs $5-6.00 per can.
 

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

Great information. I will give it a try.<br />Thanks,
 

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Re: 1984 Mercury 90 hp intermittant idle problems

For you instructions for decarbonizing the motor. Instead of taking the boat to the lake to run the Seafoam through the engine, can you just use a hose and earmuffs to run it through for 15 minutes at a time? Or is the hose method not recommended for more than 5 minutes?
 
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