The effects of bad/old gas or gas with water in it...

musky4man

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Dumb question...Would old/bad/contaminated/poorly mixed gas ran in a 1975 Merc 7.5 cause operation (or lack thereof) that mimicks bad compression or a dirty carb? Let me rephrase that...Can anyone give me a list of variables to check before having to go grab the tool box and start taking things apart? I don't want to tear the whole thing apart looking for problems if I don't have to! My local boat dealers will inevetably try to sell me a new motor if I take a 31 year-old motor in for repair. Previous owner says it has over 6000 hours on it, but in doing the math it has high 2000s at the most. Previous owner seemed to think the "coil packs" (his words) are shot, but the previous owner probably can't find the oil plug on his own car (and neither can I). Previous owner wanted a new boat and this engine failure was a good excuse for "the boss" in my opinion. I am fairly mechanically enclined and willing to do the work myself if this motor will run reliably for a few more seasons, but if I can avoid taking everything apart for now I will. I will say this...the carb has never been cleaned (although it was replaced 10 YEARS ago), and except for the times when problems came up in the past, the only preventative maintainence the previous owner performed was (1) Run the motor out of gas after every fishing trip + a few pulls, and (2) change the water pump impeller every spring before starting the motor (aside from buying new gas, and new plug). In short, I just want to see if the darned thing works before I go out and buy a bunch of tools, although I'm betting hard on the carb at this point, and I'm trying to avoid going to a mechanic if I can fix it myself. I know this looks like an idiotic post so please spare me the idiot replys. What I really need is (1) any useful info as to what I can check before taking it apart, and (2) Useful info on how to clean the carb without buying an air compressor!<br /><br />Anything at all will help.<br />Thanks.
 

andy6374

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Re: The effects of bad/old gas or gas with water in it...

Why not try some new gas and see.<br /><br />Get it to run and take a compression test as a starting point. If the compression is bad there is no need to do everything else. If it won't start with the new gas (so you can warm it up to take the compression), check for spark.<br /><br />If compression is good we will talk some more.
 

timmathis

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Re: The effects of bad/old gas or gas with water in it...

Add some seafoam to the new fuel It could help clean the carb. Also if you can remove the boal from carb I would clean it out first. Tim
 

Motor Boater Bill

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Re: The effects of bad/old gas or gas with water in it...

Check out the post in the FAQ section of the iBoats boards.<br /><br /> http://forums.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=000001 <br /><br />Ignore the parts about electric startes. It's a good, concise troubleshooting process.<br /><br />You can squirt fuel/oil mix into the carb with an oil can to bypass possible carb issues.<br /><br />You can pull the rope slowly and see if you can feel compression. You can also put a wrench on the flywheel nut and turn it to get a better feel. This won't measure compression but it will tell you if there is no compression at all.<br /><br />As Andy said, check for spark by removing a plug, grounding it while you crank the motor and seeing if it sparks. Check both plugs. Cranking will be easier with both plugs out but make sure both plugs are grounded, otherwise this is hard on the CDI (ignition) box.<br /><br />Having a second person to pull the rope helps a lot.<br /><br />Tell us what you find--good luck!
 
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