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rattlinjd

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Ok so I got a tracker v14 aluminum boat that says it is rated for a 20hp max. I recently mounted a 50hp 2 stroke Johnson a center console w steering wheel and moved the fuel cell to the front. It screams like that!! Can anybody tell me if thats illegal. Also do u think the transom is gonna get tore off. I reinforced it with some 1 inch hickory across the entire transom. By the way I live in NW Arkansas
 

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It mostly depends on your state and insurance company

Here is a good explanation LINK post 42
So here's the straight scope from the guy who used oversee the testing of recreational boats for compliance with Coast Guard regulations. You can easily calculate the rated horsepower. The formula for a monohull boat less than 20 feet in length with remote steering and a 20 inch (or more) transom height is; the centerline length in feet (for ex. 18 ft 6 in = 18.5) times the maximum transom width (including rub rails) in feet times 2, minus 90. then round to the nearest multiple of five.

example 18.5 X 6.75 X 2 = 249.75 249.75 - 90 =159.75. so the rating would be 160.

The USCG requires a manufacturer to put on a HP rating. The weight of the rated outboard is also used to calculate how much flotation goes into the boat, and maximum persons capacity. The Fed law doesn't apply to boat owners, but there is a big caveat. Many states make it illegal to exceed the rated HP. Insurance companies get nervous if you exceed the HP and may void your policy. Plus the boat may do squirrelly things if you overpower it. Putting a 175 or 180 on a boat rated for 160 may not raise many eyebrows, and may not cause problems, but 300 certainly will. You are adding a lot of weight and the built in flotation to support the motor will not support that weight, So if your boat swamps, which it probably will because it will sit much lower in the stern, will now roll over and dump you and your family in the drink.

Boats 20 feet and up are not required by law to rate the HP, but most do using ABYC standards or a test course to see if the boat is stable with the rated HP, and if it will do any strange things when maneuvering through an ABYC test course or the ISO collision avoidance course. It's their choice. Most boats up to about 26 feet are rated using the formula or the test courses and above that length it's up to the manufacturer.
 

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Two and a half times the HP is only one problem. Adding the center console probably also exceeded the weight capacity. Glad you don't go boating anywhere near me. My local river has had enough accidents already.
 

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Sorry no other way to say this but a 50hp ob on a 14’ aluminum rated for 20hp max is both dangerous and illegal and dumb. You jeopardize your life and others on the water. You obviously can’t get insurance on that boat with 50hp. This question is so off the wall, got to wonder if it’s real or just bs..
Dont mean to offend anybody but this is just nuts.
 

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According to an Arkansas Boating Laws and Regulations website (https://www.thecampfirecollective.com/blog/arkansas-boating-laws-and-regulations/):

It is illegal in the state of Arkansas to operate any boat or manipulate any waterskis, aquaplane or similar device in a careless, reckless or negligent manner so as to endanger the life, limb or property of any person.
Examples of reckless boat operation include:
  • Operating in a designated swimming area.
  • Weaving through congested traffic at more than idle speed.
  • Jumping the wake of another boat unreasonably close to the other boat.
  • Waiting until the last possible moment to swerve to avoid a collision.
  • Creating a hazardous wake.
  • Harassing or disturbing wildlife.
  • Riding on the boat’s stern, bow, gunwales or transom.
  • Overloading a boat beyond the safe carrying capacity.
  • Overpowering a boat beyond the recommended horsepower capacity.
  • Towing a waterskier in a restricted area or where an obstruction exists.
 

rattlinjd

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According to an Arkansas Boating Laws and Regulations website (https://www.thecampfirecollective.com/blog/arkansas-boating-laws-and-regulations/):

It is illegal in the state of Arkansas to operate any boat or manipulate any waterskis, aquaplane or similar device in a careless, reckless or negligent manner so as to endanger the life, limb or property of any person.
Examples of reckless boat operation include:
  • Operating in a designated swimming area.
  • Weaving through congested traffic at more than idle speed.
  • Jumping the wake of another boat unreasonably close to the other boat.
  • Waiting until the last possible moment to swerve to avoid a collision.
  • Creating a hazardous wake.
  • Harassing or disturbing wildlife.
  • Riding on the boat’s stern, bow, gunwales or transom.
  • Overloading a boat beyond the safe carrying capacity.
  • Overpowering a boat beyond the recommended horsepower capacity.
  • Towing a waterskier in a restricted area or where an obstruction exists.
Why do these guys that's got jet boats with 454s get away with it
 

rattlinjd

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Sorry no other way to say this but a 50hp ob on a 14’ aluminum rated for 20hp max is both dangerous and illegal and dumb. You jeopardize your life and others on the water. You obviously can’t get insurance on that boat with 50hp. This question is so off the wall, got to wonder if it’s real or just bs..
Dont mean to offend anybody but this is just nuts.
Is it really illegal or are you just talking out your ass you know you call me dumb so I call you dumb
 

bigblocksarefun

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Not a great idea, illegal and I look forward to seeing you on YouTube lol. Dumb is not realizing there is a significant difference between an inboard and an outboard. It's already been posted how it's illegal. If you're in NW AR then I assume this is a lake and you're at the mercy of AGFC; if they're anything like your state troopers you're likely fooked lol. If you were to venture out on to federal waters (basically anything tidal) then you also have to contend with USCG; if I was the boarding officer who stopped your abortion, you're going directly to the pier/ramp (terminated voyage) along with a write-up for your unsafe vessel and anything I can find since pretty much anyone who gets a manifestly unsafe voyage termination tends to get an attitude and mouthy.
 

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Why do these guys that's got jet boats with 454s get away with it
The Tahiti's and such, were purpose built boats that were designed to carry the weight and HP. Ala...Suck My Wake (Great Outdoors...John Candy).

There was a rush on jets in the 90's or so...seemed everyone and their brother made one in the 14-17' range. Typically these were small HP motors, some were cannibalized outboards with the powerheads moved into the boat with the jet sticking out (Bayliner Jazz anyone?). But these were also designed to handle this power.

Stuffing a 50HP on a 14' aluminum boat, nothing I would do...notwithstanding the legal issues. Heck OPP tossed 20's on theirs and they flew. You weren't outrunning them.
 
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