A Good Night to be on Lake Erie

dwco5051

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A Good Night to be on Lake Erie, you will have the whole lake to yourself. One salty just West of Buffalo, a couple hiding out behind Long Point, Ont. And every one else tucked in close to shore.

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dwco5051

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Are those ship transponders i assume?
Yes. High winds across the length of Erie has not only record waves but a seiche of around 7 feet. A lot of pictures of the lake bottom on the internet taken on the Western part of the lake. Nine boats hiding out behind Long Point. The Salty near Buffalo is showing under engine power at .2 knots. "The Winds of November"

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Seiche---Water just disappears due to local atmospheric pressures.-----Happens fairly regularly in my area / harbor / river mouth.-----Water level drops over a few minutes by a foot or more.-----Then returns to normal a few minutes later.----Seeing it is believing it.
 

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A seiche is a standing wave in an enclosed or partially enclosed body of water, caused by disturbances like strong winds, earthquakes, or atmospheric pressure changes. It's like a sloshing motion, similar to water in a bathtub, where water is pushed to one end and then oscillates back and forth. These events can cause dramatic changes in water levels, with the water level dropping significantly at one end of the lake and rising sharply at the other.

What causes a seiche?
  • Wind: Strong, persistent winds pushing water to one side of the lake are the most common cause.
  • Earthquakes: Seismic activity can cause the water to slosh back and forth.
  • Atmospheric pressure: Rapid changes in air pressure can also generate seiches.
  • Other factors: Landslides, heavy rains, and changes in water density can also contribute.

What are the effects of a seiche?
  • Water level changes: A seiche can cause a dramatic difference in water levels between different ends of a lake, with one area experiencing flooding and another seeing shorelines exposed.
  • Dangerous waves: While many are not dangerous, some seiches can create powerful waves that can sweep people off piers, sink ships, or damage shorelines.
    • Damage: The rising water can lead to flooding and, when combined with ice, can cause ice to be thrown onto the shore, causing damage.
    • Ice damage: If there is ice on the water, waves can throw it against the shore, causing damage.
 

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Many years ago a boat arrived in my yard.-----Boat was tied to a dock.----Water went out the river.----When water came back , it filled the tilted / leaning boat.----Boat did not refloat.-----I immediately got the motor ( 70 HP ) running to prevent internal corrosion.
 

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Even the " footers " are at anchor waiting out this weather.-----I counted 10 freighters sheltering behind Long Point.-----Good on the captains and the owners.
 

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Even the " footers " are at anchor waiting out this weather.-----I counted 10 freighters sheltering behind Long Point.-----Good on the captains and the owners.
I did see the captain of the HEERENGRACHT left a post that it was his decision and not the company's to remain out while waiting to get into the Welland and with the size and freeboard of his bulk freighter they were not in danger. That was the boat out west of Buffalo in my original post.
 

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-----Water level drops over a few minutes by a foot or more.-----Then returns to normal a few minutes later.---
Saw pictures of Sandusky Bay. Thought that was quite normal until I read this thread.

Really, minutes later?
More of a wave effect, ie tidal wave?

Pretty regular occurrence here to have the water either “blown out” or “piled up” on the leeward shore for days at a time. Things can get really crazy if you have Spring or Flood tides involved
 

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You sit on the boat and watch all the lines go tighter.----Then minutes later the water comes back.----Have seen it numerous times.----Seeing is believing.
 
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