Best diet to lose 20 lbs?

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My Bologna has a first name,
It's O-S-C-A-R.
My bologna has a second name,
It's M-A-Y-E-R.
Oh I love to eat it everyday,
And if you ask me why I'll say,
Cause' Oscar Mayer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A!!!!
 
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a friend of mine in college toured the hormel ham plant. where they dump 2000# of ham hocks in a glorified cement mixer and add salt and water to make a slurry...... that is then extruded into ham cans. there is a catch bucket under each joint in the extruder line.
 
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redneck joe said:
When I had my intestine chopped up I lost 25 in the recovery. Once my colon started working properly again I went back to standard habits / lifestyle and all back.
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I did some damage to my guts in the crash and had an "end ileostomy " , they removed 300mm of colon and a couple of feet of something else . I had a bag for a year and while I was happy to get it removed I have never felt so sick afterwards ,šŸ˜I tell ya , you wouldnt want to walk up on me with a hose or tube in your hand now šŸ˜ I was 117kg at the time of the crash and 78kg when I got out of hospital . My boss didnt recognise me at 1st ......that makes you realise just how much things had changed
 
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Who doesn't love spam, family tradition going back to my grandparents, minimum of 1 can of spam in the pantry at all times.
 
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Everyone likes the sausage. No one wants to know how it's made. That being said, I happily make my own most of the time though there's very little in the way of processed in it.
 
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Pmt133 said:
Everyone likes the sausage. No one wants to know how it's made. That being said, I happily make my own most of the time though there's very little in the way of processed in it.
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Technically you are processing it. That is the thing about processed food definition. Every single product in a grocery store is processed at some level, even the organic. I guess we need to avoid the ultra processed food, however cheese of the highest quality is highly processed, yes even cheese curds.
 
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DeepCMark58A said:
Technically you are processing it. That is the thing about processed food definition. Every single product in a grocery store is processed at some level, even the organic. I guess we need to avoid the ultra processed food, however cheese of the highest quality is highly processed, yes even cheese curds.
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Well yeah and I understand what you mean. But what are we drawing the circle around for processing then? There really isn't a way to clearly make a distinction... though I think everyone understands there is going to be a big difference between a mass produced "sausage" and what a local butcher/home guy makes. Though removing filler/preservatives/stabilizers they are actually going to be pretty similar content wise.
 
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I chase down rabbits and eat them raw....

As i said earlier, calories in v calories expended. What calories consumed is way more important than anything else for weight. Nutrition is a different conversation.
 
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DeepCMark58A said:
Technically you are processing it. That is the thing about processed food definition. Every single product in a grocery store is processed at some level, even the organic. I guess we need to avoid the ultra processed food, however cheese of the highest quality is highly processed, yes even cheese curds.
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ā€œProcessingā€ isnā€™t the issue. Cutting my steak into bit size pieces to eat is ā€œprocessingā€

When Mrs. Dingbat makes a loaf of bread she uses four ingredients, flour, yeast, salt and water. Here is the ingredient list for a loaf of white Wonderbreadā€¦.

Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Water, Sugar, Yeast

Contains 2% or Less of Each of the Following:
Calcium Carbonate, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil, Salt, Dough Conditioners

Contains One or More of the Following:
Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Calcium Stearoyl Lactylate, Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, Distilled Monoglycerides, Calcium Peroxide, Calcium Iodate, DATEM, Ethoxylated Mono- and Diglycerides, Enzymes, Ascorbic Acid), Vinegar, Monocalcium Phosphate, Citric Acid, Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3), Soy Lecithin, Calcium Propionate
 
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OK, on the wonderbread ingredients read up on them. They are not all 'bad' because they are 'extra'. Start by reading up on folic acid.
 
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OK, on the wonderbread ingredients read up on them. They are not all 'bad' because they are 'extra'. Start by reading up on folic acid.
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problems.

Special Precautions​

and Warnings​

When taken by mouth: It is likely safe for most people to take folic acid in doses of no more than 1 mg daily. Doses higher than 1 mg daily may be unsafe. These doses might cause stomach upset, nausea, diarrhea, irritability, confusion, behavior changes, skin reactions, seizures, and other side effects.

Procedures to widen narrowed arteries (angioplasty): Using folic acid, vitamin B6, and vitamin B12 might worsen narrowed arteries. Folic acid should not be used by people recovering from this procedure.

Cancer: Early research suggests that taking 0.8-1 mg of folic acid daily might increase the risk of cancer. Until more is known, people with a history of cancer should avoid high doses of folic acid.
 
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OK this thread is going off track but anything in high doses is bad and it specifically states for most people its fine.

This is a better reflection of folic acid, and many other things.

Folic acid (a B vitamin) is crucial before and during early pregnancy (especially the first 12 weeks) to prevent severe birth defects of the baby's brain and spine (neural tube defects like spina bifida), with the standard recommendation being 400 mcg daily for women of childbearing age, often starting at least a month before conception, and continuing through early pregnancy via prenatal vitamins, though a doctor might prescribe a higher dose (like 5mg) for high-risk individua
 
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redneck joe said:
OK this thread is going off track but anything in high doses is bad and it specifically states for most people its fine.

This is a better reflection of folic acid, and many other things.

Folic acid (a B vitamin) is crucial before and during early pregnancy (especially the first 12 weeks) to prevent severe birth defects of the baby's brain and spine (neural tube defects like spina bifida), with the standard recommendation being 400 mcg daily for women of childbearing age, often starting at least a month before conception, and continuing through early pregnancy via prenatal vitamins, though a doctor might prescribe a higher dose (like 5mg) for high-risk individua
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Do you plan on getting pregnant?
 
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Processed isnt really the right word .....any more , or at least break it up a bit like
Natural processing ,unaltered processing , modified processing etc .
I dont like spam ....yeah it might stop you dying of starvation but Id have to think about it ....or that tinned corned beaf .....nah , Id have to be in a war or something.
But I would kill for a tin of pressed lamb tongues ,havnt seen them since Iwas a kid .
 
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dingbat said:
Speaking about eating "healthy"....lets play name this foodstuff

What popular foodstuff is this?
Is this something you would eat?

MECHANICALLY SEPARATED CHICKEN, PORK, WATER, CORN SYRUP, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF SALT, GROUND MUSTARD SEED, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, SODIUM PHOSPHATES, SODIUM DIACETATE, SODIUM PROPIONATE, BEEF, SODIUM BENZOATE, FLAVOR, SODIUM ASCORBATE, SODIUM NITRITE, EXTRACTIVES OF PAPRIKA, CELERY SEED EXTRACT.
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dingbat said:
ā€œProcessingā€ isnā€™t the issue. Cutting my steak into bit size pieces to eat is ā€œprocessingā€

When Mrs. Dingbat makes a loaf of bread she uses four ingredients, flour, yeast, salt and water. Here is the ingredient list for a loaf of white Wonderbreadā€¦.

Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Water, Sugar, Yeast

Contains 2% or Less of Each of the Following:
Calcium Carbonate, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil, Salt, Dough Conditioners

Contains One or More of the Following:
Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Calcium Stearoyl Lactylate, Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, Distilled Monoglycerides, Calcium Peroxide, Calcium Iodate, DATEM, Ethoxylated Mono- and Diglycerides, Enzymes, Ascorbic Acid), Vinegar, Monocalcium Phosphate, Citric Acid, Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3), Soy Lecithin, Calcium Propionate
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yep, that's my definition of processed food.
 
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redneck joe said:
OK this thread is going off track but anything in high doses is bad and it specifically states for most people its fine.

This is a better reflection of folic acid, and many other things.

Folic acid (a B vitamin) is crucial before and during early pregnancy (especially the first 12 weeks) to prevent severe birth defects of the baby's brain and spine (neural tube defects like spina bifida), with the standard recommendation being 400 mcg daily for women of childbearing age, often starting at least a month before conception, and continuing through early pregnancy via prenatal vitamins, though a doctor might prescribe a higher dose (like 5mg) for high-risk individua
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Moreover, folic acid (Vitamin B9) is crucial for making red blood cells, producing DNA, and supporting rapid cell growth.
 
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