Family of 5, 19ft or 21ft?

airshot

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Gee liability is a major concern for all manufacturers. Remember when Ford Explorers had those series of fatal rollovers during a crash? Ford was sued a whole lot. On a related note, remember when the Pinto's would pop into reverse on their own, back into something and explode? The transmission was the catalyst, and it was a liability.

It would be legal jeopardy for Brunswick's atty to tell the court that the Bayliners were made cheaper or less well than another boat.
Owned a few Explorers over the years and a couple were involved in accidents ( not my fault) and never rolled one over...also owned four Pintos in my younger years, was rear ended twice with no fire. Never saw one go into reverse by itself. No doubt your stories are real, but are these more examples of trying to fix "stupidity" ??
 

redneck joe

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We ended up going with the Rinker 192

Looked at a Stingray in between.

The Rinker ended up being local, original owner, friend of a friend. Interior is actually in decent shape, no rips in the seats, I couldn’t find a soft spot in the floor. Needs to be cleaned up from winter storage, only thing that doesn’t work is the radio which isn’t a huge deal. Everything was serviced before winter storage but I still plan on doing a complete service as a peace of mind.
Pics or it didn't happen....
 

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Airshot, The Pinto issue was a big story in the early 80's. To be fair the Pinto's gas tank was in the same place and was the same design as the Mustang and other cars of the time. The top of the gas tank was the floor of the trunk, in a lot of those Ford and Mercury models.

The difference was that the Pinto was a much lighter and had a less strong bumper, than Mustang/ Comet/Cougar. Fairlane etc. If you hit something in a Pinto, the bumper bent and pushed the gas tank into the differential where it could be punctured. Leaking gasoline is real bad.

The pinto-unique design flaw was for the trans to suddenly pop into reverse. That did not plague other models.

The Explorer was a much newer scandal. I did not follow it closely, but Ford was compelled to address it.
 

Scott Danforth

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the ford roll-overs were primarily because the ford/firestone relationship and the 721 tires being used under heavy SUV's the tires failed, causing instability with socker moms driving.
 

redneck joe

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So, when do you splash the boat?

Pro tip, never take the family on the first trip. Only you, a mechanically inclined buddy, snacks and a 6 pax of beer max.

Learn the boat without stress.
 
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airshot

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Airshot, The Pinto issue was a big story in the early 80's. To be fair the Pinto's gas tank was in the same place and was the same design as the Mustang and other cars of the time. The top of the gas tank was the floor of the trunk, in a lot of those Ford and Mercury models.

The difference was that the Pinto was a much lighter and had a less strong bumper, than Mustang/ Comet/Cougar. Fairlane etc. If you hit something in a Pinto, the bumper bent and pushed the gas tank into the differential where it could be punctured. Leaking gasoline is real bad.

The pinto-unique design flaw was for the trans to suddenly pop into reverse. That did not plague other models.

The Explorer was a much newer scandal. I did not follow it closely, but Ford was compelled to address it.
Familiar with the fuel tank issues, but the going into reverse by itself was a new one for me. Back then I did some volunteer work for the local fire dept and sent to a few rear end collision fires, never with a Pinto though.
 
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