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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Sorry my man hope you feel better and stay warm.
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    A guy from South Africa replied on a different forum this is what he said: "The pre '95 Force engines used Chrysler design technology from the seventies with the commensurate problems. The swivel housing is one of them: if wear of the king pin bushings is not caught on time, the king pin will...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Since I did not get any relevant advice on my particular model I went on ChatGPT and apparently the 0.5mm between the king pin and the plastic bushings is excessive it is supposed to be 0.1 so lubricant gets through. 0.5mm will cause clunking and unstable steering. So I guess I have to find two...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    OK I measure it with a wire gap tool and as I expected there is a 0.5mm or below space there, the 0.025 wire tool was not easy to insert so it's smaller than that.
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Is Jerry still around?
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    5mm 5mm?! That's a lot. Mine are 0.5mm larger. But since I heated up the bracket to get the old pin out I am thinking that caused some shrinkage.
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    I just looked on Marine engine website and it 8s a E2 Mercury Quicksilver 23-819493 Bushing OEM New Factory Boat Parts. So it's factory. Wtf.
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    I bought another one from Ebay it's a Quicksilver I will see if it's any different. Like I sa8d the ones I installed are from Marine Engine. I didn't see a brand but was hoping they sell the right ones I did install the engine but it would be easy to remove at this point it's only the sealant...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Hey Jerry any thoughts on the new king pin and new bearing sleeve bushings having some play after install? Have not packed them with grease yet. The new king pin is the exact same measurement as the old one. The plastic bushings seem a bit larger in the id by 0.5 or so. Is this normal? Will it...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    So I measured the ID for the new bearings is around 28.80.. The old bearing is 28. 28mm. So 0.6mm bigger on the new ones. The old and new king pins are the same diameter and outside diameter of the old and new bearings also measures the same.
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    I already installed the motor but not the drive. Is there any issue if I leave it like this? Again the plastic bushing sleeves when in pretty tight to the wall of the swivel bracket. The king pin itself has a little play in those 2 bushing bearing sleeves. So how can I fit anything on the back...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    I got the parts for the replacement king pin put it in and now the pin has some play inside. Everything new the king ping from Marine Engine for #25 engine so 19 inch long. It slides in real easy and it falls out if I don't hold it. When the engine will be on it will have ever so slight play...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Is there any particular grease you recommend or marine grease is enough?
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Yeah I have to remove the second engine also. I will look at Softseal. I like FluidFilm too. It protects pretty good. I will spray both and put grease. By the way whay grease do you use. They were both frozen in place. The motors were turning on the outside pivot of the king pin. I...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Hey Jerry when I get the plastic sleeve bearings and king pin do they go back easily or they have to be hammered in ? Do I need grease in there? How do I prevent near future shaft build up? Let me k n ow thanks
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    Ok I cleaned the bracket king pin hole. The plastic bearing sleeves go in really easy now I have no clue of that is normal and how they function. Never put new ones in. Maybe Jerry can tell us I am sure he did it before. Also half way down the hole there is another sleeve that won't come...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    It finally came out I hammered a medium size 1/2 inch extention on the top of the king pin heated the bracket up with the map for 5 min hammered it really hard from the bottom first until it came out half inch on top. O think the heating did the trick. Bottom bearing came out haf way I am still...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    As you said it won't budge. I have a torches but it is a Map yellow It is stuck inside. This is supposed to rotate in the bracket right?And the bearings inside are plastic.
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    1990 Force outboard 230ho removed upper bearing by cutting and left a crease need advice

    Thanks Jerry there are several that do I found really cheap parts at marine engine. The crank was 215 brand new including the bearing on top. The king pin and 2 plastic so called bearings 18 bucks so I got 2. I will do the other engine. I wish I did it last summer when I rebuilt it. Of well I a...
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    1990 120ho force king pin question

    I have the manual thanks I looked it up there seems to be a washer and a cap on top to remove and then you hammer it down with a punch. I found the exact replacement original from Marine Engine and the plastic bearings. I think the pin is stainless. It was so cheap like 12 bucks plus 4 dollars...
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