$100 Winterization Special

thedukeryan

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I inquired about a $100 winterization special listed on CL. I asked what all was included. The guy responds that for $100 he will run 5 gallons of RV anti freeze through the engine and add lower unit oil if needed. Doesn't sound like much of a special to me. With that said his regular price was $150. As you can imangine I passed on this so called special. What is the overall opinion of the 5 gallom antifreeze method. The reason I ask is because this has been my plan. Anyone had any bad experiences with this?
 

83Evinrude

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

If you drain your block, exhaust manifolds and any other place your manual says to before you start with the antifreeze you should be fine. Many don't use antifreeze at all and if everything is drained properly you shouldn't need it but some like extra insurance.

Don S has a great winterization write up here:
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=178695
 

scoutabout

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

When I had my SeaRay I/O I liked the anti-freeze as I would use it to ensure all the water was out. I'd open up everything and pour it in the top of the cooling system at various places (as in highest points), waiting to see pink run out of the manifolds, thermostat housing, outdrive, etc. I knew when I saw lots of pink, the water had to be gone or sufficiently diluted.

Whether ultimately you leave the engine empty or not seems to be a matter of choice. I always left the motor full of antifreeze where I could because the manual suggested it. I'm sure it would have probably been fine without, assuming all water was gone.

But, yeah -- I'd have some questions for that guy on CL. Like, what do you mean "add lower unit oil if needed"...If by "need" you mean it's full of water, then just adding oil again isn't going to fix the issue. If he means change it as a matter of course, I'd say yes, I guess you need it...

Ambiguity like this drives me nuts and makes me worry about the standard of the overall work.

My other pet peeve is no-one ever mentions replacing the gaskets on the two drain screws unless I ask specifically. And I always get the sense they were not going to touch them until I brought it up.

I even had one place forget the bottom gasket altogether. When doing a pre-departure walk around after putting the boat on the trailer one day early in the season I happened to notice the bottom screw was countersunk much further than I had previously seen it. I unscrewed it and the drive was full of milky oil and there was no gasket. :mad:

Needless to say I do as much of my own work as possible now. The standard overall I'd say is poor out there which is too bad because I know there are good, competent people in the industry (and on this board). I just seem to have a hard time finding them where I usually boat...
 

Gary H NC

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

Sounds like he does the 5 gallon bucket hooked to muffs.....Pass on that deal!

A full winterizing should include gear lube change,oil,filters and fuel filters along with draining everything,pull the drive and grease and inspect.
Fog the engine and all.
 

thedukeryan

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

Yeah... The guy says he will hook it uo to anti freez/muffs. Does this process even work? It seems logical. I have one of the 5 gallo/muff systems that I plan on using. As for the lower unit he said he will add more if it is low. This guy is a joke. $100 to hook a boat up to muffs and add lube only it its low. I would like some opinions on the muff/antifreeze method.
 

Gary H NC

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

The muff idea is a big NO in my opinion.
The engine has to run long enough for the thermostat to open then as soon as the AF is poured to it guess what happens? The thermostat closes and the AF does not circulate.
Heck for a 100 bucks i would winterize the correct way and change the gear lube.
 

mattb1974

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

I would bet he has a "Spring Special" on fixing cracked blocks and manifolds also.
 

airdvr1227

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Re: $100 Winterization Special

Classic case of 'you get what you pay for'. Even running 5 gallons he's not making much at $100.
 
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