115HP with Teikei carbs ..which jets are which ???

mhuett

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Hello All,<br /><br />I have a 1984 Yamaha 115AET which sat idle for about 7 years.<br /><br />So far I have replaced the oil in the lower leg, replaced the water pump, fitted new spark plugs, replaced the CDI (had to TRY to start ..then disconnect all leads of the CDI and reconnect them ..then it would start and run like a charm all day - this was an issue from 7 years ago!!). <br /><br />First outing was not too bad ...started nicley and after giving it 15mins at low RPM openned it up a bit...got up onto the plane nicley and pulled as well as it always has. On this first run I had the fuel/oil at about 40:1.<br /><br />The problem was that it would start surging after about 4000 RPM. I could hear it rev higher and could also feel it accelerate but it just wouldn't 'hold still'. These 'pulses' of power only lasted about 1/4 of a second and about 10-20 seconds apart.<br /><br />So after a few phone calls to local (Australian) dealers I suspected fuel and the first option (easiset!!) was to replace the fuel pump ..one dealer said that after sitting for that long that the diaphram was probably out of shape ... so I replaced it and had the same trouble ..OK ..time to pull of the carbies and run a kit through them.<br /><br />I was happy to find that on EACH carby one of the jets with the larger holes was completely gummed up ... no worries I thought and prceeded to strip & rebuild them one at a time. <br /><br />The problem I have now is that the Selco manual I have says that the main jets have a larger number embossed on them and the pilots are the smaller. On my unit the jets are 16 (large hole) and 70 (small hole). This is all great except that according to the manual they are installed the opposite way around to where I pulled them out from!! This was why I did the rebuilds one at a time (so that I could refer back to the 'original'..).<br /><br />The manual has been pretty good so far but I know that my carbs definatley have the jets reversed in relation to what the book is saying.<br /><br />Can anyone please tell me which is the correct location for each set. One set are only 1/2 inch apart and to the bottom of the barrel (closest to the float) ... as per where I removed them from and these are the 16's or large holes. The other two (70's - small hole) are currently approx 2 inches apart and are above the barrel.<br /><br />I know this sounds a bit convelluted but anyone who knows the Teikei carbs should understand what I'm rattling on about.<br /><br /><br />Thanks in advance!!
 

mhuett

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Re: 115HP with Teikei carbs ..which jets are which ???

Sorry ..should also add that I have replaced both the fuel filter on the side of the motor as well as the one I have half way along the line from the bow tank...did at the same time I did the CDI, impeller, spark plugs etc...
 

Ray Neudecker

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Re: 115HP with Teikei carbs ..which jets are which ???

You need to relace the filter housing on the side of the motor as well as the filter. Many times I have found them to be restrictive after a motor has sat up. The parts CD does not give the actual jet sizes. The idle air jets which best I can tell looking at the carbs should be marked 70 and is much smaller than the Main jets which should be marked on the outside with 160, 165, 170 or 175.The two sets in the shop both have 175's in them.<br /> I have no way of telling if these are from the factory or have been changed. They go in the bowl. That engine had a crossmilled intake and with those carbs may have required fatter jetting than the V-6 which ran the basically same carbs.<br /> First, I would put them back the way they came out. Then I would bypass the filter assembly and test carefully. If the motor is then lean, I would upsize the jets.<br /> Be careful you have the restrictions clear and that the jetting for the mains is adequate. Real easy to stick a piston without enough fuel.
 

mhuett

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Re: 115HP with Teikei carbs ..which jets are which ???

Thanks for the reply...<br /><br />I have put them back in the positions they came from .. as I mentioned this is reversed to the Seloc manual text but from what I can make out in the photo's they too appear to contradict the text description of locations.<br /><br />The motor has run perfectly for years on these jets so I must assume that they are the correct sizes - the current problem will most likely stem from the two (large hole) jets that were totally blocked.<br /><br />Thanks again!!
 
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