115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

country boy

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ok! here's my situation this thing is driving me nuts! i went in my 1986 merc to fix some water driping on the cylinder block cover and changed the block water jacket cover and related gaskets, also and i am geting a grey mixture of oil & water?looks like,coming out the lower unit exhaust,so i figured that i was geting water in somewhere on the gaskets i changed,either water jacket or baffle plate, so i pull it back apart to se what is going on and and the mixture is in there between the cylinder block and baffle plate :% but cant really tell where it is coming from or coming in ,so i replaced gaskets again and the same thing is going on i am stumped ! any help or ideas would be appreciated,(runs great,100psi on all six,firing on all six, gaskets were put on dry no sealant! torqued to specs) Thanks!
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Did you see any signs of this milkshake in the cylinders after running? It would apear that you have a leak allowing exhaust to mix with your cooling water circuit. When you replaced the gaskets, did you remove the inner most exhaust cover as well, or just the outer baffle plate?
 

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The following is a process that was written by Jeff G. It may help you with your water/exhaust issue:

Repost: Water Ingestion & How To Fix It.

I have been asked how to do this so for all here goes.

One of the major complaints of the post 73 inlines was the leaking side plate and water ingestion. The side plate has always been made out to be the culprit but in most cases it isn't so!

There are 3 common ways water gets into the motor. The inner side plate, the baffle plate, (the middle plate on the side of the block) and the lower seals.

Probably the most overlooked and most common is the lower seals. To replace them the block does not have to come apart. The lower end cap can be removed with a simple puller. Replace the seals using some perfect seal around the outside case of the seals and pack grease
between the seals. They must have both lips facing down! Very important.

If the end of the crank is buggered or rusty a speedy sleeve can be installed. The actual location of the seals can be changed to avoid any small grooves in the speedy sleeve.

The inner side plate is pretty straight forward. If the plate is old replace it. If there is a lot of carbon and no sign of water, LEAVE IT ALONE!. If the plate is relatively new and is leaking it can be straightened and reused. You can gently straighten it on the edge of a soft wood table. I recommend replacement in all cases.

Always use a new Mercury gasket, not aftermarket. Clean and retap all the bolt holes, clean the bolts with a wire wheel on a grinder. Then clean the bolts with carb or brake cleaner. Do the same with the bolt holes. Hand clean the gasket surfaces on the block and plate with a
razor blade held at right angles slowly scraping the surface. Wipe clean.

Run a small bead of red high temp RTV sealer on the block. Do not use any RTV with copper. Lightly smear the sealer to ensure complete coverage and a thin coating, don't use too much. Put the gasket into place and do the same with the gasket, so it is coated now on both sides with RTV. Place the side plate into position. You will notice a couple bolt holes are elongated and tight. These are used to line up the plate. Use a drop of red loctite (permanent) on each bolt and finger tighten
them. Once all are installed you can torque the bolts in three even stages to 200 INCH pounds. Start in the middle and work outward in clockwise circles. Once torqued leave it for at least 24 hours. Do not re-check torque!

The third area to check is the baffle plate. this is the middle of the 3 plates on the exhaust side of the motor. Please read the following very carefully. This plate is quite often the cause of internal leaks!!! Yet it is never checked, nor is it mentioned in any service manual!

The baffle plate has some zig zag ridges that meet with the corresponding ridges on the inner plate. These ridges seal and baffle the exhaust for tuning purposes. With the block on it's side and the inner plate torqued, lay the baffle plate on the block WITHOUT a gasket.
Holding it down in the middle see if it rocks from side to side. If it does it will leak. Next while holding it down with finger pressure look into the cavity from the bottom of the block. If you see any light around the edges, it will leak. If checked with a gasket the thickness of the gasket may hide the high centering of the plate.

You will need to true the baffle plate. Do not try to true the inner plate. You can use a large table sander or a file, or any machine shop. True the ridges of the baffle plate until the plate no longer rocks and very little or no light is visible around the edges. You may not be able
to get it to the point of no light. Place a very small smear of grease on the inner plate ridges and place the baffle plate on the block. Remove the baffle plate and check for the transfer of grease. Keep filing the baffle until no grease is transferred. What you are doing is preventing the baffle plate from high centering on the inner plate.

Once the plate is done you can assemble the motor. After dropping in the pistons and checking the rings, place the baffle plate and exhaust cover (outer plate) on the block using some RTV as a gasket sealer. (You can run a very thin bead of red RTV on the baffle ridges as well, although not necessary for pleasure boating) A very thin coating will do. Black or red is acceptable. Torque the bolts to between 150 and 200 inch pounds in three stages beginning in the middle and working outward. Use some blue removable loctite on the bolts. Clean the bolts and holes as you did the inner plate.

This should cure your water ingestion problems.
 

country boy

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

hello! that is a lot of good stuff there and , i'm sure if applied properly it will fix my problem. no milkshake in the cylinder,just moisture on some plugs,wherever it is coming from its not a bunch but needs to seal up,i think the lower seals and the rtv red is my next step!the inner plate gasket was changed too (i have suspicion it is coming from this one),all three and the front,thanks a bunch,will keep you all posted, c.b.
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Hello! all /AMD Rules ,i changed the inner water jacket gasket again and used the red silicone on it and all the other gaskets and the lower seals i was able to get them out by loose 4 crank bolts at the bottom and worked it out fairly easy,and it seems that the problem has been fixed 8) thanks ! again AMD Rules!!
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Hope it works out good for you.
 

country boy

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Hello! it looks like the problem has not been fixed ,i noticed when i have the motor on the muffs and run it this mixture comes out after i stop running it for awile,and if i run it in a drum it is not as bad or hardly at all but i noticed whin i was tilting it back to take the drum out water was dripping out the carbs,i did all of the above post ,changed seals and siliconed all gaskets carefully ,any other ideas or sugestions ,maybe an internal crack somewhere!! thanks C.B.
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

country said:
Hello! it looks like the problem has not been fixed ,i noticed when i have the motor on the muffs and run it this mixture comes out after i stop running it for awile,and if i run it in a drum it is not as bad or hardly at all but i noticed whin i was tilting it back to take the drum out water was dripping out the carbs,i did all of the above post ,changed seals and siliconed all gaskets carefully ,any other ideas or sugestions ,maybe an internal crack somewhere!! thanks C.B.
the power head came off 4 times to try to figure it out not sure where to go from here! maybe i am overloking something! thanks for any advise/input!!
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Ummm, The 1st think they should have told you is that water NATURALLY mixes with the exhaust in those things on the way out. Unless you are seeing proof of water intrusion in the cylinders - it could well be NORMAL, no wonder it can't be fixed.

-W
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

I have a 40hp Merc that does the exact same thing (it sounds). I've always thaought this was normal as I am not getting any sign of water inside the cylinder, plugs, or carb. Since the exhaust goes out the bottom I would think that the exhaust gasses mixing with the cooling water would naturally make a "foamy" mess.
 

country boy

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

wow / Hellooo! thanks for that i needed to hear that, i think i am going to take that and run with it.it just looked a little much to be coming out ,dont quite remember the last one i had dripping as much .i plan to go ahead and use it this way unless i see any water in the cylinders,any tips on what to look for on the plugs other than obvious signs of water? (clean?) Thanks again for all your input, This board is Great! Thanks again c.b.
 

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country said:
wow / Hellooo! thanks for that i needed to hear that, i think i am going to take that and run with it.it just looked a little much to be coming out ,dont quite remember the last one i had dripping as much .i plan to go ahead and use it this way unless i see any water in the cylinders,any tips on what to look for on the plugs other than obvious signs of water? (clean?) Thanks again for all your input, This board is Great! Thanks again c.b.
after reviewing current posts? this question still puzzles me and may not have an answer(how does this mixture get between exaust ports/block and baffle plate above water exit into exhaust?mmmm!
 

Chris1956

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

Country boy, If the exhaust baffle plate does not seal to the block (on the front part, where the two rows of bolts are), water can spray into the cylinder exhaust port area. Under the correct conditions, this spray can be sucked into the cylinder thru the exhaust port.
 

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Re: 115merc( L-6)EXHAUST/MILKY MESS?

CB..... the engine exhaust and the water exiting the powerhead all meet in the leg... and come out the prop.

-W
 
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