12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

truex14

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Can I have my 2 batteries lined up in series for my trolling motor AND just hook up to one battery for 12v lights at the same time? or do I need a third separate battery?

My 12/24 is an omc th4t with 4 wires: red/ 2 white jumpers/ black.

If I operate in the 12v mode, how do I know which battery it draws from? If I find that out can't I hook up the house load to the other?
 
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Silvertip

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Re: 12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

You need to double check your wiring. You said you have two red wires, two white jumpers and black. This tells me nothing about the physical wiring. 12/24 systems generally are not wired in series at the batteries. Rather, two wires from each battery typically run to a switch/receptacle panel at the bow. The 12/24 selector switch on the motor then determines whether the batteries are paralleled for 12 volt operation, or series for 24 volt operation. They cannot be connected in both configurations at the same time. This brings me to the topic of getting 12 volts from one battery. Yes you can do that. But DO NOT try taking 12 volts from the other battery as well. What will happen is the two grounds now combine through the 12 volt devices and you will make smoke in the series connection. I can show you how to pick off 12 volts safely but I need you to post a diagram of what you really have showing wiring from the batteries all the way to the trolling motor. What you described does not make sense.
 

truex14

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Re: 12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

Not sure where you get "two red" from. The trolling motor has four connections to the batteries to run in series: red/2 white jumpers(neg 1 to pos 2)/black.
Then I have 2 wires for my 12v house load I need to run without screwing anything up.
If the 2 batteries are wired in series for the trolling motor, how does it pull just 12v in 12v mode?
 

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Re: 12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

You keep mentioning two white jumpers! Jumpers to what and why two of them? If both of them interconnect Battery #1 pos to Battery #2 Neg, then the batteries are wired in series AT THE BATTERIES. The title of your post says 12/24 and 12 volt which is very misleading since you cannot get 12 volts to the motor in this fashion so the 12/24 selector switch on the motor will not function properly. I need to know what the wire colors are coming from the foot pedal for the motor. Typically a 12/24 motor will have one red (24 volts), one orange (12 volts) and one white or black (ground). Regardless what the motor wiring looks like, you simply connect your 12 volt house load to the battery that has the black ground wire on it. The pos and neg terminals of that battery will provide 12 volts. The reason you don't want to use both batteries to supply individual 12 volt sources is because of the jumper between the two batteries. If for any reason the ground on any of the 12 volt house loads come together you create a short that will fry wiring in heartbeat since the short is directly across the battery. Let me know what the troller wire colors are and we can get that wiring confirmed (at least by me). You also didn't mention whether or not you have a 12/24/Run/Charge switch and receptacle panel at the front of the boat. If so, how is that wired. Pictures from the front and back are needed. There are many 12/24 wiring schemes thanks to the electrical folks at the boat manufacturers.
 

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Re: 12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

"I need to know what the wire colors are coming from the foot pedal for the motor."

Who said anything about a foot pedal?

"Let me know what the troller wire colors are and we can get that wiring confirmed (at least by me)."

See 1st 2 posts

"You also didn't mention whether or not you have a 12/24/Run/Charge switch and receptacle panel at the front of the boat."

Who said anything about a receptacle panel?

I have 2 batteries. I have a 12/24 trolling motor that runs off the 2 in series.

I need to run 12v.

How?
 

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Re: 12/24 AND 12 at the same time?

You ask a question about how to get a separate house feed from a 12/24 volt troller system. I ask you to clarify what type of system you have and I get an evasive remark. Apparently you don't want an answer as to how to SAFELY wire this system. So I guess you are on your own. Have a fire extinguisher handy.
 
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