1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

little john

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I Have A 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor. I Can Not Seem To Keep It Running Unless I Keep Pushing The Primer Bulb On The Metal Gas Tank. I Am New Into Boating And If Someone Could Give Me A Tip I Would Really Appreciate It. Thanks Little John.
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

the 1959 was still a pressure tank unless it's been converted. If you have a primer bulb you have the wrong tank. By pumping the bulb you are acting as a fuel pump. The pressure tank motors did not have fuel pumps. You primed them to start the motor then once started the motor delivered pressure to the tank and the other line from the tank delivered fuel to the motor. A continuous loop. If it has been converted to a fuel pump then it sounds like the pump may be bad or you have an air leak in your line or a bad check valve in the ball.
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

I would check the vent on you gas tank to make sure it is open and not obstructed by anything. does the primer bulb stay hard? if not you probably have a bad fuel line sucking air. when was the last time you rebuilt the carb?
 

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I would check the vent on you gas tank to make sure it is open and not obstructed by anything. does the primer bulb stay hard? if not you probably have a bad fuel line sucking air. when was the last time you rebuilt the carb?

if it is still a pressure tank and he does have the right tank there is no vent. The cap needs to be on tight for the tank to pressurize. Need to find out if it's been converted first and what he is dealing with. Your suggestion is right on if it's been converted. You would be surprised at how many people try to run the pressure tank motors off of regular tanks.
 

little john

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

Thanks For The Info. I Will Try All Of This And Get Back With You.
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

the 1959 was still a pressure tank unless it's been converted.
Among the more pleasant sounds from my early youth was the lengthy hiss a spent tank of fuel would make when my dad would take the cap off, pausing as he did, to let the pressure bleed off. I'll bet I've not heard that sound for forty years. In those days, our '58 Evinrude Lark sucked it dry pretty quckly too, usually hauling my skinny, adolescent self on skiis.

Sorry: thinking of those two hose pressure tanks takes me back . . .
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

But isn't the engine fitting different on the old pressure tanks?
Can you actually connect a "new' single-line tank to an old motor?
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

It Is An Old Gas Tank With Two Lines Coming From It One Says Air And The Other Says Fuel.
 

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It Is An Old Gas Tank With Two Lines Coming From It One Says Air And The Other Says Fuel.

So, actually you are pushing the primer button on the tank, not squeezing a rubber bulb, is that correct? There should be no rubber squeezer bulb on a pressure tank.

If it keeps running by pressing the primer button, your tank is not pressurizing. That could be because of it not being sealed air tight (cap loose or some other leak). It could also be because of a leak in the air hose. It could also be because the air check valves in the motor are shot.
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

The most obvious thing to check is that you have the gas tank cap screwed on absolutely tight, as it requires this seal to maintain pressure.
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

I Have The Gas Tank Lid Screwed On Tight And The Tank Will Hold Pressure.
 

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If The Air Check Valves Are Shot What Do I Need To Do To Fix It Or Can I Fix It.
 

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If the check valves are shot which I've never encountered before (keep in mind F-R was working on these before I was born so if he says it, that's how it is), then you'll have to remove the carb, then remove the intake manifold and you'll see them. They'll be a pair of little black things that are totally obvious since other than the reed valves, they're the only thing in there. After you get the intake off they're totally easy to replace. I would take the air hose off the tank and see if air was being pushed out by the motor before I'd take that intake off to check the check valves. If you pry on that intake too hard because you missed taking out a screw and can't figure out why it won't come off, then game over unless you can get a new intake. There's a screw or two on the intake manifold that are not obvious and easily missed.
Myself, I'd suspect you have a blockage somewhere such as the fuel filter, fuel line to the carb, or fuel connector itself. Why don't you take the fuel line off the carb and pump the primer, then see how much fuel comes out. If it gushes out with no resistance, then take the carb off and take the bowl out and pump the primer and see how much is coming into the carb to see if your filter may be stopped up. Or you could even take the filter element out momentarily to see if that fixes the problem. Lastly, if all that checks out o.k., I'd suspect your float is misadjusted and you're having to force fuel past the needle valve with the primer to get it to go into the carb and fill the bowl up. I'd just make sure I covered all my bases on fuel restriction or float adjustment before going to the check valves.
Just some ideas you might try,:)
JBJ
 
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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

One more thing..........you said the tank will hold pressure. Does that mean it is pressuring up and it makes a healthy hiss for several seconds when you take the gas cap off the tank slowly? If it's pressuring up good, the problem isn't the check valves.
Good luck,
JBJ
 

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I've never heard of a check valve problem either but I guess it's possible!

But that last part is right on Jason, if the tank is pressurizing as he said it was then it's working but just not forcing the fuel back. Could be a tank issue or blocked line...
 

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True, if there is pressure being built up in the tank it is not leaking and the check valves are doing their job. If that is the case, check that sintered filter in the glass filter bowl. They get partially plugged up and won't allow enough fuel flow. They are almost impossible to clean and replacement is the cure.

I recently tore down a motor and found the rubber check valves turned into a gooey mess. Haven't decided yet what caused that (?).
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

I had a similar issue when I tried the wrong sized O rings in the fuel connector. They rolled when I connected and covered up the small holes the fuel goes through. Rick
 

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Re: 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor

I Have A 1959 10 Hp Johnson Seahorse Boat Motor. I Can Not Seem To Keep It Running Unless I Keep Pushing The Primer Bulb On The Metal Gas Tank. I Am New Into Boating And If Someone Could Give Me A Tip I Would Really Appreciate It. Thanks Little John.

I Have The Gas Tank Lid Screwed On Tight And The Tank Will Hold Pressure.

If the tank is holding pressure, then you should not be able to "keep pushing the primer". How long does it hold pressure?
If you don't push the primer...and the engine stops...is there still any pressure?
 
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