1965 TollyCraft for sale?

Ned L

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I have known the name Tollycraft for forty years and can't say I ever heard anything bad about them. I made some general comments about this boat on your other thread, check that out.
 

ziggy

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for $4k. somethings wrong with that boat imho.
at the least it needs 1 new engine.
beware imho.
get a survey done prior to purchase.
cool looking boat though.
 

jigngrub

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I wonder what it really looks like IRL?

The for sale pics on CL are a lot like online dating, they look good on the computer... but look nothing like the pics IRL.:facepalm:
 

jc55

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$4k needs nothing...athletic build, smart, funny, pretty...still single. Right Jig?

All joking aside, neat boat. The owner is probably just trying to unload her. 32' marina fees, haul out fees, storage fees, mooring fees, marina fuel prices, maintenance, etc. They're probably just moving on. If the structure was sound, it would be a good candidate for an interior upgrade. I would totally live on that!
 

bobdec

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A 50 year old boat w/a dead engine, advertised as ready to cruise the islands. Going to take a wad of $$$ before I'd venture far from home in it. One of my past boats was a "Classic" 26 ft Owens Sea Skiff. A maintenance nightmare, nice hobby if you enjoy working on a boat and not being on the water. This one has the sounds of being a Dock Queen, would be interested to hear last time it went to sea...
 

redneck joe

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anytime you get 'ready to run the islands' but also has a dead engine is worrisome to me. Also - why emphasize the fact it has windshield wipers? Good be good, anything that old will need work. Get a survey
 

Ned L

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I would venture to say that the boat may (possibly) be in excellent condition. Unfortunately with the stigma attached to wooden boats, often times the best an owner can hope when it comes time to sell is to find a good home her and not even consider the dollars.
 

25thmustang

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Here is what I can add as someone who purchased/owns a "too good to be true" deal. The boat in my sig, price started around $20,000. It dropped over a year or more and when I went to look at it was priced in the low teens, if I recall right. The boat was on the hard and had been for at least 2-3 years. We had 100% access to it though and actually went aboard 3 times before making an offer. We made a low ball offer contingent on survey. They accepted with the clause that it's take it or leave it. The boat survey was done in the dead of winter, on land, no option for sea trial. Surveyor found the following. - structure below the deck was in good shape. - gunwale caps showed signs of rot/cracks. - foredeck and bridge showed in good shape. - cockpit deck good, hatches in bad shape/rot. - engines started up, genset didn't, AC didn't cool but ran, trans went in and out of gear. - flybridge in shambles, no electronics, canvas good. - interior ok, worn but no damage. - surveyor noted the price we were paying was dirt cheap and he would have paid that had we walked. Maybe just a line but he seemed genuinely interested in the boat. With that said we went into it as having a lot of previous boat experience and ready to tackle whatever. Over the last few seasons we had a few issues arise. One fuel tank was full of varnished sediment in the bottom. This actually caused one engine to die out on us and required the heads pulled, one broken valve replaced and all of the valves cleaned and checked. Done by us at just the cost of the valve and gaskets. Needed both carbs redone, sent those out to a local quadrajet guy. Cutlass bearings in rough shape, sent to a local marina to pull and redo. Aforementioned fuel tank was cut out, cleaned and reinstalled. New fuel pumps, new tstat, belts, hoses, etc. pulled and checked manifolds and risers and found the existing to be on good shape. New zincs. Genset carb rebuilt, fuel pump rebuilt, and misc. pieces replaced. AC worked perfect. I'm sure I'm missing a lot but we have had it for 3 seasons now and the boat fires right up, runs perfect, cruises great, and a lot of look good stuff has been done. With that being said, I'm not sure a new boater would want to jump into something like this. The money hasn't been too bad but we tend to do as much has we can, and I tend to save dollars wherever possible (anything finish wise I can get used, I do). Good luck with whatever you decide!
 

mmetzger1028

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I went and checked it out.........she was definitely a lil rougher than I was expecting. Actually, he had her pulled out of the water that day because the office noticed she was sitting a little low, turns out it was pretty full of water from a driveshaft leak. When I checked it out, even the carpet in the galley was soaked, and the engine bay full of water. Definitely NOT something I wanted to get into with a 50 year old wooden boat.... Sad to see, hopefully someone who can put the time and money into her does, because it was still a beautiful boat, just more of a project that I was willing to take on. Its definitely a lot of boat for the money as he said he would even take less than $4,000. If I felt it was save taking it the 15miles or so up the sound to Dagmars in Everett Wa, I might consider the purchase as it would be kept out of water and I could just work on it as needed/wanted.

FYI, I wasn't able to fine this on the internet, just found mixed info, but the boat is in fact a fiberglass hull. But its fiberglass layer over wood. I was surprised a boat that old was fiberglass at all.
 

Ned L

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oK, so it is a sheet plywood hull that was glassed (original). Not a bad construciton technique, but one that can be problematic as issues come up (you can't replace just a single plank, you have to cut out and replace a sizable area of plywood. Some constiderations are that being plywood she will likely never have much of a 'collectors' value as a classic wood boat yet will still carry that stigma of being a wood boat. That said, if taken good care of you would probably get your purchase price back when you sell her (not many plastic boat owners can say the same), though finding a buyer will take time, so don't plan on being able to put a for sale sign on her one week and have her gone the next. The leak and having to pull her has nothing to do with being a wood hull (if the leak is the stuffing box as stated).
 

mmetzger1028

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I think its been leaking for awhile now. I talked with the owner and he bought it from a friend whom had the leaking issue. So my main concern would be how long has water been sitting at the bottom of this wooden boat, and how much has it possibly compromised the structure?
 

25thmustang

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Keep in mind if water got that high, the bilge pumps must have been shot. I would be Leary on any boat with non working bilge pumps. I'm not familiar with pricing in your area but I didn't pay much more than his asking price for a larger, newer boat with two running motors and no leaks. Deals are out there, just don't rush into anything.
 
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