1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

kellykool

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I have a 1966, Mercury 650, 65hp, 4 cylinder. When I first put the boat in the water it cranks great. It's idled a bit to low but when you give it the gas it runs great. After just a minute or so it's like it just quits running for a millisecond and then starts running fine again. Then it may lose power for a few seconds and then it restores itself and runs great. I can then turn the motor off and do a little fishin' (which is why I bought the boat) and when I go to crank the boat again it will not even try to fire. I can let it sit for 10 or fifteen minutes and then it will crank again (except last Saurday when I had to troll all the way back to the dock). Does anyone have any ideas what may be causing this? I love the boat and motor would just like to get it fixed. I ordered a manual for it, but I am figuring the troubleshooting section is not going to cover this.<br /> The Mercury switch on the side of the motor had gone bad. I removed it. The housing under the distributor cap had been busted before I bought it. I was wondering why it had been slathered with black poly butylene. I took it apart and cleaned it well. Super Glued it back together and then put fast drying marine sealant on the outside of all the cracks. Let it cure for a couple of hours. Also, the points were not opening wide enough. I would say about .00002 or something, if it was opening at all (I am surprised it was running). I reset that to .010, put everything back together and now it cranks and runs great. Even fixed the low idling problem by adjusting the throttle cable the way the manual described. And it goes into gear smoother. Took the boat out for a second outing since I reset the points. The first time I took it out it ran great. The second outing and it was running horrible. It's like it had no fire at all. It went from a top speed of 29 ground speed to 6.9 ground speed and acted like it was only running on 1 cyclinder with lots of missing even at low speeds. Would the coil do that? I am going to pop it back open and see if something happened to the points. How do you check a coil to see if it is working correctly?The new plugs did not help much. It is not missing now but it has no power at all. I can throw up the warm-up stick and it will rev really good but when I put a load on the prop it just does not have power. The points still look like they are gapped right. I am not sure how to check the coil or the condensor. The manual I bought explains some things well and others it doesn't even address. Frustrated! No squeaking. The motor cranks so easy that the starter will try to disengage too quickly because it fires immediately. Me and my wife took it out last Sunday morning after I had set the points and it just ran beautifully like a new motor. We had to go to Grannies house to pick up the girls so I asked a friend if he wanted to go back out with me. When I cranked it up it was missing and sputtering and finally lost all power and it had just eaten up the plugs as stated in my previous post. I can't figure out for the life of me what could have happened while it was just sitting on the trailer waiting to go back to the lake. Currently it cranks fine. Idles well. If you give it full throttle it goes but has no power at all. It can't get enough speed to plane out. About 9 mph. If I push up the warm up stick it will rev wide open. But if I put it in gear and give it the throttle it is pitiful. Any help would be of great appreciation.. My husband is Frustrated :confused: :mad: ...
 

dennisrhall

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Re: 1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

i have a 1967 mercury-650 65hp, love it better than peanut butter and jelly, even when its not running right. i had pretty much same problem, i dont know how i fixed it, but i put an inline gas filter on it, changed the gas line from the tank to the motor and also got a new pump bulb, and used seafoam in the fuel tank. runs great. great ole motor, hope this helps!
 

Laddies

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Re: 1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

Kelly, alot of times when regapping points with a feeler gauge, you will leave a deposit on the pt. surface or disturb the oxidisation on them causing all kinds of weird problems
 

kellykool

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Re: 1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

Thanks alot guys for the reply.. Cleaned the points again careful not to touch anything.. Still runs the same.. Ordered a new coil, condensor, points today.. All the fuel lines etc. have been replaced.. Will update after new parts are installed.. Thanks again Kelly
 

kellykool

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Re: 1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

UPDATE.. <br />Well we replaced Coil, Condonser, Points.. Took the boat out for the first time since fixing it.. It does the same thing.. NO power, NO plane.. <br />Can't set the timing due to no timing marks on the flywheel or anyplace else.. Checked the entire thing.. Nothing..... How would we find out TDC? Can anyone help us with this? We are about to send this motor for Junk.. Thanks Kelly
 

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Re: 1966 Mercury 650 65 HP No Power

You need a timing stop or dial indicater to set the timing on that engine, most had flywheel mark but some didn't, find TDC when roll the engine to .222 BTDC and the pts should break as the mag hits the advance stop (ck this with a OHM meter.
 
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