1967 StarCraft 15'

[catbones]

OK so here's the thing.... I just might be looking at letting my 15 footer 1967 StarCraft Jet go. That's only to get something bigger. I've already had an inquiry the first time I tested her after the rebuilt but I wasn't sure what $$$ dollars wise she was worth.

So if you followed any of my posts, be that rebuilding, etc... What would you say I should tell the dude that keeps asking or anyone else for that matter? What can I be looking at??

 

[catbones]

anyone? wish there was some kind of blue book value to compare to but nothing out there and that's understandable, old boat.

 

[jbcurt00]

Unfortunately, the sale price for you in NY is likely to be much different then other places, like WV...

Asking ranges from $1000-4500, for similar sized boats here. Some open fishing boats, a few that are closed bow. Some w engines, some w/out. Some w vintage engines, very few w new motors. Many in that range needing much of the work you've already done. A few in that range dont need something done, but only a few, but they still arent a full gut and rehab. Trailers are under some, a few dont look bad, but i wouldnt want to tow them far.

So, if someone asked me what I'd sell my boat for, I'd ask them to make me an offer, and I'd counter w double that amount if I thought the middle was fair for what I had in it.

At least triple if I really liked the boat

At least 4 times if I really liked the boat and didnt really think I wanted to do another to replace it if I did sell it. Maybe more

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Unfortunately, the sale price for you in NY is likely to be much different than other places

QFT

It's been a few years but shortly after I bought the Jet a Jetish SC showed up on CL not freshly redone but was in good shape with a motor of near the same vintage. It sat there close to a year and the last price I remember was $1500. Don't know if it ever sold or if he gave up. Keep in mind that around here closed bows are a hard sell anyway.

Study your market watch what similar boats are listed at (I know that doesn't mean they sell for that) list yours appropriately, maybe a bit high just be ready to take a beating in the responses you get. Might lead to a sale you can live with.

 

[catbones]

Thanks for the tips ... It's why I brought it here only because locally trying to do research I've gotten mixed $800, $1500... $2500, $3500, $6000... I guess I should follow them and see if they sell for what price still won't know. Another thing, none for whatever price are not close enough even the condition I got mine... And after I did mine from ground up with proper sealing, etc.. I mean it's not 100% vintage because stuff in mine are different but on another note, not rotted, they are new, etc... So I guess you guys are right if a rotted k e sells for $1500... Ask $3000 or $4500

 

[catbones]

Ha-ha just read also the good info by JB .... It's true, ask for an offer and then multiply. I love the boat but with a family of three and wife on board something like 18 would be nicer specially since the kids will grow and want tubing sooner then later. 33 hp won't do much and 50 I believe is max on this Jet.

However unless theres a good $$$ signing might just keep the 15 and get an 18, 19 or a 22... For the more family outing. Maybe go fiberglass sports something or other. Deck boat. Ha-ha ... You guys are gonna kill me for even saying that.

 

[JimS123]

I'm from Buffalo, so I have a fair idea of what stuff sells for around here.

First of all let me say that your boat is beautiful and you should be proud to own it. You did a fine job. But unfortunately that doesn't pay the rent.

If it were a 1940's Chris Craft it would be a sought after antique and it would have a big market. Starcrafts do not command that much attention, plus the classic market has dropped considerably. As an example, my woodie restoration was completed in 2005 and she won a 1st place trophy in 2006. I have $5K into her and with the trophy I was offered $10K cash. Just last year one just like her went on EBay for $4200.

So, your customer base is going to be a guy who wants a small fishing / cruising boat. He doesn't want to take it to the Antique & Classic Boat Show. With that said, there is a glut of boats on the market. If he wants to spend $6K he'll look for a much newer one. He's in the market for a thousand dollar boat and is looking in the classifieds for fixeruppers or older models.

Bottom line, IMHO the boat would sell for $1500, possibly $2000 if the owner recognized the quality and was willing to pay for it.

The best suggestion would be to take it to the Antique Boat Show in September 2015 (google old boats buffalo) and enter it in the for sale category.

 

[64osby]

Get the motor issues cleaned up. List it at your Happy number. See if you have any bites.

If you really want to sell it wait for a good offer.

Personally I wouldn't like being without a boat. I would look for the next project (since the Admiral is on board) Work on the new on during the hard water months. Come spring sell if you have the new boat almost ready. Spring prices are usually higher.

 

[catbones]

So on another note, what would a good upgrade be in the StarCraft or other in terms of size (18, 19, 22, etc..) For a family of five + and some fun on the lake down the road (pulling a tube or something when kids grow up)... I've found everything from 18 to 22 that I can drop some $$$ on and work through summer next year maybe, even start stripping this year before winter.

Keeling the 15 footer to have fun. Any suggestions, all welcome on side from people who have these. Thnx in advance.

 

[64osby]

A 21' or 22' open bow, SS or Mariner would be my choices.

You could also convert an Islander like Jason was working on.

Sig link to our Mariner if you care to look.

 

[catbones]

I guess I'll see where it ends up, posted it on CS at $4 ... with best offer. If any market and it bites, whatever I'll get for it I use it to grab Starcrafter65 18 footer open bow islander he rebuilt, if he still has it.

 

[Frank Acampora]

There are two sales I simply won't consider: 1. those where the owner describes his boat as so many feet, so many inches long such as 16 foot 5 1/2 inches long and 2. those where the boat is described as partially or fully restored. I find that these owners tend to have an over-inflated idea of what their boat is worth. --Just sayin'

 

[catbones]

There are two sales I simply won't consider: 1. those where the owner describes his boat as so many feet, so many inches long such as 16 foot 5 1/2 inches long and 2. those where the boat is described as partially or fully restored. I find that these owners tend to have an over-inflated idea of what their boat is worth. --Just sayin'

Cool, thanks for the comment. Honestly though, by fully restored I mean as in stripped down to bare and replaced with new stuff; of course anyone here knows that no one here as well is Starcraft manufacturer. We are just restoring these boats to usable condition, am I wrong or right??

Also, I'm not trying to over-inflate my boats worth or anything, had to start some where. I'm in no rush to get rid of it since I just got into it after 2 years.

Just saying LOL I get your point, everyone has their thing.

 

[jbcurt00]

Few boats w an over inflated price have a publicly documented record of the tear down and put back.

IMO you have 1 in spades, the public record, and not too much of the other It is obo, and even if it wasn't, you could definitely expect someone to offer less no matter what your asking...

Good luck either way and continue to use and enjoy the boat

 

[catbones]

Few boats w an over inflated price have a publicly documented record of the tear down and put back.

IMO you have 1 in spades, the public record, and not too much of the other It is obo, and even if it wasn't, you could definitely expect someone to offer less no matter what your asking...

Good luck either way and continue to use and enjoy the boat

Exactly.... hey in the end it is what it is.... there is many variables in a deal that one can sell for much much less, trade or not sell at all. We shall see where she goes, either way I'm ok, at least I've got something good looking at either end.

Thanks for input JB! can't wait till it worms up a little again and take her out, maybe cruise the canal for a few miles.

 

[JimS123]

Cool, thanks for the comment. Honestly though, by fully restored I mean as in stripped down to bare and replaced with new stuff; of course anyone here knows that no one here as well is Starcraft manufacturer. We are just restoring these boats to usable condition, am I wrong or right??

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I would disagree, but then again I'm into antiques and classics.

"Restored" means it was brought back as close as possible to the way it left the factory. Ads that say restored are also one of my pet pieves. Nothing worse than going to look at a boat and find that he painted areas that shouldn't have been painted, and then installed folding seats on an unpainted plywood base (oh the horror).

In your case, the word "modernized" fits perfectly. BTW, your ad shows very well. But note that there is an 18' I/O Starcraft on the same page and it is also modernized, looks to be in excellent condition and the price is the same.

The other pieve of mine is "best offer" in the ad. In other words, the seller knows he won't get what he's asking.

We were eating dinner tied to the Dock at Gateway Harbor last weekend, and had a 1970's vintage Starcraft tie up next to us. It was completely beat to ships. I never saw an aluminum huill with that many dents and scratches. It was the owner's first day out. He tied it up with badly frayed washline, and then bragged he just bought it for $200. That's the problem - people want cheap and aren't willing to pay for quality.

 

[catbones]

I would disagree, but then again I'm into antiques and classics.

"Restored" means it was brought back as close as possible to the way it left the factory. Ads that say restored are also one of my pet pieves. Nothing worse than going to look at a boat and find that he painted areas that shouldn't have been painted, and then installed folding seats on an unpainted plywood base (oh the horror).

In your case, the word "modernized" fits perfectly. BTW, your ad shows very well. But note that there is an 18' I/O Starcraft on the same page and it is also modernized, looks to be in excellent condition and the price is the same.

The other pieve of mine is "best offer" in the ad. In other words, the seller knows he won't get what he's asking.

We were eating dinner tied to the Dock at Gateway Harbor last weekend, and had a 1970's vintage Starcraft tie up next to us. It was completely beat to ships. I never saw an aluminum huill with that many dents and scratches. It was the owner's first day out. He tied it up with badly frayed washline, and then bragged he just bought it for $200. That's the problem - people want cheap and aren't willing to pay for quality.

That's the hard part... There's $1000 - $2500 stuff out there where just with photos I can see my foot going through the floor.

I'm pretty much tipping my toes in to see how much interest and what not. Appreciate the input it all make sense.